Message from @Garbage

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2019-07-04 16:00:56 UTC  

you are not free if you submit

2019-07-04 16:01:03 UTC  

What if that 'another' is oneself?

2019-07-04 16:01:27 UTC  

You should look into Lacan's notion of the split subject.

2019-07-04 16:01:46 UTC  

are you did ?

2019-07-04 16:02:05 UTC  

Nope. This relates to something I said earlier.

2019-07-04 16:02:12 UTC  

It would make sense

2019-07-04 16:02:14 UTC  

"Dissociative identity disorder, also known as multiple personality disorder, is a mental disorder characterized by at least two distinct and relatively enduring personality states. There is often trouble remembering certain events, beyond what would be explained by ordinary forgetfulness"

2019-07-04 16:02:14 UTC  

When I try to describe myself, I always change.

2019-07-04 16:02:44 UTC  

*first the 'Jew' shit, now this*

2019-07-04 16:03:06 UTC  

Well im just asking as you are talking about 2 personalities in the literal sense

2019-07-04 16:03:11 UTC  

and you are forgotfull

2019-07-04 16:03:14 UTC  

""

2019-07-04 16:03:46 UTC  

As for the jew shit, you fit the desccribtion of herr hitler written in mein campf

2019-07-04 16:03:51 UTC  

It's not just '2 personalities'. It's a much more fundamental disconnect than that.

2019-07-04 16:04:12 UTC  

>muh jew

2019-07-04 16:04:14 UTC  

Again. American.

2019-07-04 16:04:19 UTC  

The point is that when anyone describes themselves and tries to understand themselves, they never quite capture themselves.

2019-07-04 16:04:47 UTC  

If I describe myself fully, I must describe myself as having described myself, and having described myself as having described myself and so on if I'm to provide an accurate description.

2019-07-04 16:05:16 UTC  

Through my practice, I can abstract qualities out of myself, but I have already moved.

2019-07-04 16:05:45 UTC  

Realising this is the key to moving even further. If I have a clear grasp over what situation I am in, then I can work to change it in some way.

2019-07-04 16:06:05 UTC  

Even if I have a gun to my head, the fact remains: I can still do something even if the chances are almost nil.

2019-07-04 16:06:53 UTC  

I lack the ability to predict the future to an ultimate extent because of my own practice as a subject always escaping me with every thought.

2019-07-04 16:07:20 UTC  

Moreover, I am fundamentally disconnected from a total recognition of myself.

2019-07-04 16:07:46 UTC  

Determinism breaks down because I am a thinking subject.

2019-07-04 16:08:13 UTC  

It is my task to recognise what I am to an ever-greater extent if I am to know what to do with myself.

2019-07-04 16:08:52 UTC  

I can become a void in my own worldview.

2019-07-04 16:10:06 UTC  

I can either pretend that my worldview will hold weight and that the world stretches as far as my current ideas of it, or I can accept that there's always something bigger which is guaranteed by my very own movements.

2019-07-04 16:10:13 UTC  

There's always more.

2019-07-04 16:10:47 UTC  

This self-reflexivity is everywhere in logic. Take the liar paradox, for example.

2019-07-04 16:10:53 UTC  

'This sentence is not true.'

2019-07-04 16:11:23 UTC  

It is a paradox, but the movement between not being true and being true with every iteration of thought still exists. It cannot be collapsed into a single moment, though.

2019-07-04 16:11:31 UTC  

In a single moment, the sentence is true or it is not.

2019-07-04 16:12:06 UTC  

Two movements are born: becoming true and becoming false.

2019-07-04 16:12:46 UTC  

Likewise, a subject cannot contain a complete understanding of themselves, since that understanding would explode to infinity.

2019-07-04 16:12:57 UTC  

***It means that subjects must be regarded as processes, forever capturing.***

2019-07-04 16:13:59 UTC  

I can therefore submit to something which relates to my idea of myself - an anonymised or at least pseudonymised entity which represents this idea.

2019-07-04 16:14:09 UTC  

This is what Lacan calls the big Other.

2019-07-04 16:14:14 UTC  

With a capital O.

2019-07-04 16:14:58 UTC  

In Communism, this Other is the thing that we must ruthlessly and consciously hammer into whatever shape is necessary.

2019-07-04 16:15:43 UTC  

The Other represents ideology, or more broadly the network of social relations as it faces every subjectivity.

2019-07-04 16:15:49 UTC  

Every person, every group of people.