Message from @Deleted User

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2019-07-06 19:29:56 UTC  

Not a dodge. I'm saying that almost all politics, by your qualifications, is fascist.

2019-07-06 19:30:05 UTC  

All politics has to involve hegemony *today*.

2019-07-06 19:30:08 UTC  

it isnt sunomuness with teh german nazi soci party despite your deluded bias

2019-07-06 19:30:22 UTC  

I know it isn't, because 'fascism' is a broad term.

2019-07-06 19:30:25 UTC  

so all politics are facist

2019-07-06 19:30:42 UTC  

If so, then fascism is *meaningless* as a term.

2019-07-06 19:30:47 UTC  

you change the measuring tape 😄 wwhich explainians your ego

2019-07-06 19:30:59 UTC  

no it isnt meaing less

2019-07-06 19:31:02 UTC  

No, I'm using *your* argumentation again, Sargon.

2019-07-06 19:31:04 UTC  

you just dont know the meaing

2019-07-06 19:31:12 UTC  

you make your own from your believes

2019-07-06 19:31:16 UTC  

You're the one saying that 'fascism' is where 'people stomp on others and their gods'.

2019-07-06 19:31:24 UTC  

your false believes that in your own believes need to be destroyed 😄

2019-07-06 19:31:58 UTC  

See, I didn't even say that what I believe in has to be followed indefinitely, did I?

2019-07-06 19:32:10 UTC  

So that's a straw man.

2019-07-06 19:32:10 UTC  

Its like you dont even know what the word stomp means

2019-07-06 19:32:36 UTC  

or you just pretend you dont, i think its the later considering the matching description by herr hitler in mein campf

2019-07-06 19:32:50 UTC  

inb4 he brings it up again

2019-07-06 19:32:56 UTC  

no it isnt a strawmen you are backpeddeling

2019-07-06 19:33:01 UTC  

You forgot an element of time, fool.

2019-07-06 19:33:14 UTC  

name calling

2019-07-06 19:33:20 UTC  

```We don't want to kill anyone even for the sake of our principles; we only need to enslave their gods as far as that's concerned. The problem is that the Communist movement is not yet powerful enough to do this, and this has never been true in history leading up to now. There are forces who won't listen to us and fight with us because we don't have the means of demonstrating to them that we can fight for them, and so they will fight us to protect their struggles regardless of how accurately they identify themselves as individuals and their struggles too.```

2019-07-06 19:33:22 UTC  

element of time that i forgot

2019-07-06 19:33:23 UTC  

This is what I said.

2019-07-06 19:33:24 UTC  

sure bud

2019-07-06 19:33:54 UTC  

The fact that there must be violent opposition to counterrevolutionary forces is not an eternal fact.

2019-07-06 19:33:56 UTC  

you said so much

2019-07-06 19:34:01 UTC  

and much of it contradicting

2019-07-06 19:34:18 UTC  

you dont follow what you preach as you see yourself as the absolute

2019-07-06 19:34:31 UTC  

Of course it would be if it were taken 'all at once', like how your frozen picture of 'freedom' doesn't exist.

2019-07-06 19:34:59 UTC  

There is a frozen absolute which you are implying that I'm talking about when I never said such a thing.

2019-07-06 19:35:29 UTC  

Communism is the movement which abolishes the present state of things, which would eventually include old iterations of itself.

2019-07-06 19:36:33 UTC  

So no, even if I were *the ultimate Communist* (no such thing exists in the first place - my entire claim is that you have less reasons to say that you're a Communist than I do and not that I am the best and ultimate Communist), then I would still have to revise what I say.

2019-07-06 19:38:05 UTC  

**Remember: even if you somehow rightly say 'that's not what you said before', you must still deal with this stronger argument first and argue why it means that I'm less of a Communist than you.**

2019-07-06 20:03:56 UTC  

It gets worse, of course.

2019-07-06 20:04:33 UTC  

You talk about my 'ego' and the preaching of the absolute and shit like that.

2019-07-06 20:05:36 UTC  

And yet look at *you*, talking about frozen ideas, saying that we're forever bound to 'submission' and using that to justify the supposed vanity of overcoming *any* kind of concrete submission which you then call a contradiction.

2019-07-06 20:08:16 UTC  

Look at *you* saying that I'm saying that 'all politics are fascist' - when this is the conclusion which I'm using your reasoning to show since you think that fascism is what I call 'Communism' because it's about 'stomping on gods hence on people'.

2019-07-06 20:09:03 UTC  

*And then you tell me that fascism does not require genocide.*

2019-07-06 20:10:15 UTC  

So either this 'fascism' of yours is distinct from my 'Communism' in the sense (but not only this sense) that while the former doesn't need bloodlust, the latter does...

2019-07-06 20:11:13 UTC  

...or 'fascism' is universal in today's political landscape and encompasses your politics too.