***Saying that one kind of abstract and frozen form of 'submission' is inevitable and a similarly-frozen state of heavenly 'freedom' is impossible __dodges the point__, because the freedom that I'm talking about is PROVISIONAL; it is something that must grow under Communism.***

Can I participate?

What is a debate on now?

Go ahead if you want. He is on his knees and his only move is to run in circles.

Let him cum from his position then.

Where he belongs he must take pleasure?

__***What makes it different from Fascism or even what you call 'fascism' is that Communists don't say 'freedom is impossible, why bother'. Instead, we say that the impossibility of your frozen idea of 'freedom' does not mean that concrete freedoms are impossible.***__

He does indeed.

He takes the position of the laughing child who supposedly knows what people think, using his own set of definitions which even the dictionaries and WIkipedia pages that he brings up do not support.

He is fascinated with frozen concepts which he assumes I'm using, ignoring the history-dependent and concrete nature of what I'm describing. For him, despite all the warnings about how his interpretations of words would lead to things which are usually true but trivially-so, __he continues to use these concepts to drag things out of my words which I did not say and went to great lengths to dispute on my own__.

***That's*** **what the slimy fucker means when he screams 'nuance!!!'.**

Even when I clearly say 'what you call 'fascism' can only ever be temporary in Communism', he jumps to 'your 'Communism' is 'fascism' because you said forever changing and provisional revolution' because he assumes that a state of affairs where 'fascism' (i.e. the need for organising and building a hegemony which must establish itself violently, i.e. *state politics*) will be inherent to politics because no nonviolent and mutual means of conflict resolution can ever exist according to him (which is in truth a third-positionist belief)!

Because his concepts are basic and they don't require any logic behind them. Is of assumed irrational.

What do you want from the poor man?

Stop torturing.

His soul.

Some people like it simple.

Let them be :))

Is of so easy to relax and everything is so clear.

If you forget of arguments and logic. Just assume concept.

Assumption > Arguments

@Garbage

Makes things easier?

You're not into making things easier, don't you? @Garbage

Lol, he isnt torturing me with his false assumptions and implications. I find him ammusing.

"He takes the position of the laughing child who supposedly knows what people think, using his own set of definitions which even the dictionaries and WIkipedia pages that he brings up do not support." I only brought forth the wiki to show your misunderstanding of concepts. @Garbage And you saying they disagree with me is just your opinion. "That's what the slimy fucker means when he screams 'nuance!!!'." Youa re the person who keeps screaming nuance, does this makes you "the slimy fucker"?

I spy a dodge.

I spy with my little eye

Something beginning with f

" he continues to use these concepts to drag things out of my words which I did not say and went to great lengths to dispute on my own."
You said that communism is doing what you want, yet later you say you have to submit. There is no choice in this. But your nuance is saying that if you choose to submit (which you have to do or you get stomped) is freedom

Frog

Correct holy shit how’d you know it was offender

Just a guess

``` I only brought forth the wiki to show your misunderstanding of concepts.```

yes

You mean when you conveniently left out much of the what the pages said and didn't connect the dots between the pages?

lol, i did not purposly left anything out

i showed a full paraghaph, yet in your mysticism you think the things not shown prove your delusions 😄

Notice how you don't talk about anything in particular, counting on any amnesia I might have.

You want to play the game *again*? Let's go!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government