Biological determinism doesnt excludes enviormental effects

😄 you again are mis interperting things for your own benifit

It says that biology *is* the environment and it accounts for our actions.

That mes hat enviorment still has a effect

Yes, and I did not say that you excluded that.

You are so grasping aat straws that it is sad. you twist whole concepts of truth in a attempt to prove me wrong

when i nearly stay with the fact and cant be proven wrong

We are getting some where, yes i dont exclude enviormental effects

But do you claim that those effects are also owed to biology?

I have said this what 5 times now

i wonder if you are going to "remeber " it this time

Its both

how are you not getting that it is both

why are you so black and white

dont you have the ability to not think in absolutes?

Nice dodge. Are 'environmental' factors owed to biological factors?

All the sources i have posted , state that it is both

Do biological factors *cause* environmental factors?

in cludeing the beaver one that you strawmen`ed

yes

Then you are a biological determinist.

So if biological factors cause environmental factors, then that would cover all human actions?

iff your parrents have a predisposition because of their biological atributes they create a envirorment for teh child

biology creates the enviorment

And what about the actions of others?

siomething which you have been saying as well 😄

Including you and me?

and now you are arguing against me for having that stance

I didn't actually say that 'biology creates the environment'.

Nice straw man.

No it isnt a strawmen,

you u abnd me includiong ? wtf are you talking about, what is this vague on the person line of bullshit ?

Our actions have effects on other people, and they can contribute to effects on many more people than we think.

That's why I brought up the 'Butterfly effect'.

So your actions must also be owed to biology.

If so, you must be purely acting in accordance with you biology, and you can say that you know this. You have to be able to explain how this is correct.

And you have to know everything about yourself to do that since determinism involves a claim that *everything* is determined by something else - some force or another.

But at the moment that you try to model yourself, you have to account for you modelling yourself, and you have to fit this action of yours into the model of yourself.

And you have to account for that action of making this new model of yourself.

And so on.

This process can go on forever, but if you stop it at any point, you're left with a 'shit I don't know'.