And i reitterated, even if you are able to patch in genetic material it wont change existing structures as they have already grown. And if you patch it you patch it with another set of genetics, so it is still genetic determinism

I never talked about reductism other then the times you brought it up , You are creating strawmen.

If i am the punching bag, then why are you getting baited so much, also this puching bag keeps giving you knock downs that cause massive amnesia in you

Where did i take such a postion ? i would ask if you imply much, but i already know that awnser 😄

You used me taking kratom as a means of slander, clearly the paragraps of ad hominem assaults on charcter indicates your hypocitism. One side you slander me for taking some alkaloids that have a enhancing effect, the other side you claim you dont hate the use of pscycoactive substances.

i never dodged this, I proclaimed that you were silly in the head to think that past facts are not relevant because of the chenging future. Your argument here is, you dont know what happens in the futuire, so you cant look at the past its facts.

You dodge whole decades long studies with this notion. And again igoring the gathered results of them, because theer are potential infinite studies. In which you "assume" that they would say something completly differnt

Saying theer are infinite studies in the future doesnt disputes facts of to day bud 😄

So yes, you got the idea to start talking about biological reductiobnsm becaus eyou read this on the wiki 😄 like i daid and predicted

Where did i said that it "completly"described everything? Again a assumtion that you build your strawmen on.

As for the other clauses, they are still genetic workings (again you got this from the wiki ) just because you have polygentics that influances other genetics doesnt makes it less determinsim.

The wiki that you got your argument from is simply using teh "we dont know how these biological aspacts work" As biological reduction isnt a thing..

Which is a falacy because that argument rests on biological determinism being effected by more then on alle.

Try to steal argumentation that actauly hold up bruh 😄

loll that backpeddal

wheer did i say that the enviorment is 100% created by biological aspects? Implying again, and you are wrong as i never said that it was soley caused by genetics, is weather caused by genetics? is the shining of teh sun caused by genetics? pls dont be so silly as you m,ake it to easy

The outcome results of some ones biolical nature is indeed seen in hindsight, but does this excludes predisposition? yeah it doesnt.

"You kept saying that biology is the sole cause of human action,"

I never said this

Even more so becauise i know what human actaully means

and if you are following your biology you are not human 😄

You keep using these words and terms you dont know the meaning of

Read samual Johnsons works

If you change the fgense you do this by adding different ones, this is stil biological determinism

?The amount of chemicals you can pump in to someone are limited, this limit is set by the existing biological structure.

You claim that i have amnesia because you dont remeber all the things you keep dodging

i brought in that wiki as you wree unable to keep state and government seperate, i clearyfied your wrong assumtions.

Remeber that misunderstanding you had was caused because you did not know the pam meme of they are the same picture 😄

Lol, the observer effect ? you are claiming that your biologic nature chages in a substancial way because of the observer effect?

we are not talking quantum mechanics here you know 😄

I tend to talk about whatever you brought up last. But this time...
first off, I never use just one source. wiki is ok; people like me do our best to make sure it's accurate by doing this thing called "citing sources". In spite of that, even people like @Deleted User can edit it. I did start there, however; that's where I copied the spelling of Mitragynine from. I also used places like the FDA's website, erowid's vault, a comparison check across Johns-Hopkins, web-md, and one other site. I rarely use the same 3rd site, a random 3rd opinion. I avoid sites that are selling things, because they may simply want to sell kratom, and since a business can lie, I usually assume they do, at least in part. see, this process is called "research". now, I know that's a long word for you; but it's important, because doing research is what keeps me from making a tea out of the more poisonous members of the nightshade family and offering them for sale to idiots like you as some tonic to help your mind. and no; I'm not leaving any time soon. You are free to kill yourself as you see fit. I can't stop you, and I'm not sure I would if I could. But you are lying to people and endangering them. no, I'm not some "self-appointed guardian of the system"; I'm just some one who has noticed you are a selfish prick. I love, as Garbage has said, beating on such as you with words.