Message from @Deleted User

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2019-07-17 10:39:58 UTC  

***And yet his politics can't be justified by the escapes that he's made. At the moment that human subjectivity and control seeps into his worldview, his politics begins to look shaky because none of it is justified with regards to this (which is why his focus is on biological constructs and processes).***

2019-07-17 10:41:18 UTC  

***__'Why do you want to kill people and their gods?' he asks when I talk about murdering gods rather than about murdering people in order to establish a politicisation of the commons of reasoning which exists between us. He doesn't want this commons at all, he thinks it's impossible enough for him to actively deny that it should exist.__***

2019-07-17 10:42:33 UTC  

***Oh, how he weaponises reasoning and language to try and excuse himself and his fellow crypto-third-positionists from building the politicisation of this commons.***

2019-07-17 10:44:16 UTC  

***__He focusses on things which are frozen in time, so they are eternal truisms or falsehoods, and using that he pretends that there will always be the same kinds of violence, coercion and normalcy because in their most general and abstract forms, they'll never go away.__***

2019-07-17 10:45:06 UTC  

***However, such general forms come with a god's eye view - he pretends that we can even concretely imagine and conceive of such things like freedom and submission independently of our history and our present positions.***

2019-07-17 10:47:16 UTC  

***__His choice of god is none other than CAPITAL ITSELF - the thing of our making which determines the very contours of what we regard to be freedom if we don't consciously build a replacement theory. For him, 'freedom' is the static bourgeois freedom to pursue exclusive aims on ultimate, arbitrary whims; doing what one wants can never be part of a common struggle according to him, so there will always be a need for the abstract and general form of 'government' and hence 'statism' too.__***

2019-07-17 12:32:03 UTC  

In fact, about 'biological determinism', I think I've spotted what he's doing. A familiar trick, in fact.

2019-07-17 12:38:53 UTC  

He's switched to an abstract variant of that term which is about being at least partially determined and controlled by biological forces and structures!

2019-07-17 12:40:51 UTC  

But to focus on something which is so abstract that it's tautological (since robotics makes use of biological models too) is a fallacy because it ignores that the same kinds of 'biology' do not always have to exist, and there is nothing to say that it too can be brought under conscious human control.

2019-07-17 12:42:07 UTC  

For his politics to be the best possible politics, he must prove that the abstract form imposes concrete limitations which cannot be bypassed, for his politics constitutes the avoidance of trying to overcome such limitations.

2019-07-17 12:50:06 UTC  

"In fact, your argument was that governments are examples of states " No i never said this. you should really stop ;lying and making all this sshit up you know.

2019-07-17 12:50:30 UTC  

i read one patagrah and you are lying and implying :D\

2019-07-17 12:51:06 UTC  

He’s not lying per se

2019-07-17 12:51:42 UTC  

he is being willingly ignorant

2019-07-17 12:51:54 UTC  

Like at first hes saying that he switched terms.

2019-07-17 12:52:09 UTC  

but now in the paragh above he states and blames me for doing it

2019-07-17 12:52:13 UTC  

When in reality

2019-07-17 12:52:14 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360983468286410764/601033421694697472/unknown.png

2019-07-17 12:52:49 UTC  

They are the same thing

2019-07-17 12:52:52 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360983468286410764/601033580335857673/unknown.png

2019-07-17 12:53:29 UTC  

And he is lying as he states that it is my argument, when it isnt and i never even said it

2019-07-17 12:54:45 UTC  

Hes pretty stupid too

2019-07-17 12:54:55 UTC  

as he says this "Penultimately, have a present from @/me since you blocked the guy."

2019-07-17 12:55:06 UTC  

when i actaully replied on that very comment

2019-07-17 12:56:27 UTC  

i even went in this whole talk with the guy debunking his statement, and showing him that i read more about it then he did and he had zero rebut on the whole thing

2019-07-17 12:57:30 UTC  

Still waiting on that comback @me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360983468286410764/601034745706446849/unknown.png

2019-07-17 12:58:09 UTC  

Garbage is actaully so delusional that he didnt even noticed this conversation going on. πŸ˜„

2019-07-17 15:26:18 UTC  

actually, delusions cannot prevent perception of reality. instead they act to take the reality of a situation and twist it to suit the deluded person's point of view. just as you do. interesting how that works out, isn't it?

2019-07-17 15:36:00 UTC  

about natural alkaloid receptors: your body needs water, salt and many other things; but just eat too much of them and see what happens. the reality of these receptors is that they are triggered whenever we eat good food. carbohydrates, specifically, after being broken down, create a vector that can pass the brain-blood barrier, and trigger these alkaloid receptors, so that a good meal makes us feel good. of course, this mechanism was created when food was harder to find. these days, we usually have enough food. and the ability to give those receptors other triggers. and too much stimulation, as well. triggering them used to be the end-all-be-all of our days. but we have progressed since then. well, most of us have... @Deleted User

2019-07-18 01:25:23 UTC  

" the reality of these receptors is that they are triggered whenever we eat good food. carbohydrates, specifically,"

2019-07-18 01:25:52 UTC  

So in order for something to be good food it need alkaloids in it ?

2019-07-18 01:26:02 UTC  

So drinking kratom tea is good ? πŸ˜„

2019-07-18 01:26:38 UTC  

"too much stimulation" implying

2019-07-18 01:35:41 UTC  

As for the stimulation of the receptors, you mention sugar

2019-07-18 01:36:04 UTC  

and just indicate that taking kratom is as harmless as eating sugar

2019-07-18 01:36:42 UTC  

What other negative chemial effects on the body does kratom has?

2019-07-18 01:37:22 UTC  

Looking at death rates from sugar intake and comparing those with kratom use and you wil find out that kratom has a lower risk factor.

2019-07-18 01:37:44 UTC  

Heck it even suppreses the desire to consume sugary treats and such.

2019-07-18 07:41:20 UTC  

wtf

2019-07-18 07:41:30 UTC  

kratom is for weaning yourself off heroin

2019-07-18 07:41:38 UTC  

ironic that the nazi is an ex junkie