No shit, but we don't think of the terms in the same way.

a policy idoesnt has to be government

You said that a government is a subset of a state.

You claim im wrong on it but it is you and you dont adress shit

Not that states are subsets of governments.

they are independent within the same system

you just said that you proved it in the past , you keep saying that i was wrong and you proved it. thats your argumentation

when its just a fact that a polity is not a gorvernment persee

'you proved it in the past'

but the government uses a state

facts

that you dispute me on

its just silly jewery

the state and the government use the same machine

Hang on. Weren't you telling me that I was accusing *you* of focussing on the past?

lol more jeweryu

more vagieness

Governments use states, but that doesn't make them states.

more dodge

goverments use states

Nope. Dodge on your part. You brought up the Russian revolution, remember?

no; if agreement is to be had, we must use the same dialect

states are not gorvements persee

no. the state is an entity

You replied with a copy past of my words and **"lie""**

Yet it isnt

the russian revolution has noting to do with states and government point

which btw theer is no point as you are just bs ing

Nice try.

You said that states always had to exist.

they always do

yes

no; see, unlike your BS claims, I actually read sources, like oppenheimer

And then in response to the Russian revolution point that you brought up, *this* was my response:

there is always centralized organization needed if you want to organize

I've said nothing about Russia

im not reading all that

if you cant make a concise opint is bullshit

>i don't wanna read

yes; and that has no name. it is the machine