Message from @swampy_maroon

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2017-06-07 07:36:53 UTC  

Evil is the rejection of god

2017-06-07 07:37:02 UTC  

Why would that be

2017-06-07 07:37:04 UTC  

Good and Evil cannot exist without God.

2017-06-07 07:37:04 UTC  

The absence of his prescene

2017-06-07 07:37:27 UTC  

God is good, wholly good

2017-06-07 07:37:30 UTC  

Then wouldn't god not everywhere

2017-06-07 07:37:53 UTC  

and would it be that god doesn't love he controlls

2017-06-07 07:38:01 UTC  

God is everywhere, but his essence isn't in everything. Christianity doesn't ascribe to a panentheistic view of reality

2017-06-07 07:38:33 UTC  

Like how a mad man likes to see a woman's mind breaking into stockholm

2017-06-07 07:38:49 UTC  

What is more loving? Pure love, or love and evil together? Choice allows evil. Choice is evil not loving.

2017-06-07 07:39:13 UTC  

What do you mean by those terms

2017-06-07 07:40:02 UTC  

Free will lets man chose evil. Without free will there would be no evil. That is more loving.

2017-06-07 07:40:32 UTC  

I think this is quite a complex topic, that many tomes have been written poring over this subject

2017-06-07 07:40:34 UTC  

Without free will there can be no good either

2017-06-07 07:40:38 UTC  

by both philoophers and theologians

2017-06-07 07:40:49 UTC  
2017-06-07 07:41:07 UTC  

Good? I thought we were talking about love.

2017-06-07 07:41:24 UTC  

God is a god of love and goodness

2017-06-07 07:41:51 UTC  

So as a direct result of these qualities of himself, every action thereof is never in contradiction to his attributes

2017-06-07 07:41:52 UTC  

Why is free will good for a loving God to give when it can only lead to evil?

2017-06-07 07:42:03 UTC  

he cannot act in a way that contradicts his own nature

2017-06-07 07:42:15 UTC  

Are you sure it will only lead to evil

2017-06-07 07:42:29 UTC  

How can you be so sure about something like that

2017-06-07 07:42:57 UTC  

That is the way it turned out.

2017-06-07 07:44:02 UTC  

Either you are good like God or you choose to move away.

2017-06-07 07:44:07 UTC  

This has been an interesting convo mate, but I apologise I have to go

2017-06-07 07:44:18 UTC  

Good night

2017-06-07 07:44:26 UTC  

Okay thanks.

2017-06-07 07:44:28 UTC  

I'm taking the gf to see wonder woman

2017-06-07 07:44:32 UTC  

should be good

2017-06-07 07:45:58 UTC  

Goodnight

2017-06-07 07:46:21 UTC  

@Mros Why can there be no good without freewill?

2017-06-07 07:47:18 UTC  

Because by doing good you must be consciously rejecting evil. Without the ability to do evil you cannot be good. You would merely be acting.

2017-06-07 07:48:31 UTC  

Do you really have the ability to do evil if you never commit evil sometimes?

2017-06-07 07:49:33 UTC  

Can God create evil?

2017-06-07 07:50:10 UTC  

If not he is not all powerful.

2017-06-07 07:50:26 UTC  

It is outside of his nature to do it. He would not do evil because he is all good.

2017-06-07 07:51:45 UTC  

Is God also conscious of evil?

2017-06-07 07:52:23 UTC  

Yes, and in he works around man's evil in order to do good.

2017-06-07 07:52:59 UTC  

So God would never directly command man to do evil

2017-06-07 07:53:27 UTC  

Are you going to bring up Abraham and Isaac?