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2017-06-07 15:26:40 UTC  

With the various letters and books of the new Testament being really, really widespread

2017-06-07 15:26:54 UTC  

the letters being the Epistle I assume

2017-06-07 15:27:04 UTC  

As in, we literally have the best textual evidence for it because theres just so many damn copies and manuscripts

2017-06-07 15:27:12 UTC  

yes, correct

2017-06-07 15:28:03 UTC  

The use of the current canon as it currently stands was pretty concrete pretty early on, because it is referenced by different authors

2017-06-07 15:28:18 UTC  

Along with manuscripts like Codex Vaticanus and Alexandrianus

2017-06-07 15:28:28 UTC  

So, nah bro. No council really

2017-06-07 15:28:50 UTC  

Just the Holy Spirit at work orchestrating the effort of God's holy scripture coming together

2017-06-07 15:30:15 UTC  

I'm going to research myself

2017-06-07 15:30:23 UTC  

No worries man

2017-06-07 15:30:30 UTC  

But yeah, you are correct

2017-06-07 15:30:36 UTC  

Revelations is a bit of fruit cake

2017-06-07 15:30:37 UTC  

🤔

2017-06-07 15:31:54 UTC  

Well first of all what you describe what happened was simply as ''it simply happened''. This cannot be, Revelation was very gradually accepted into Christendom so *something* has to declare something as Scripture instead of individuals simply ''yeah this seems alright''

2017-06-07 15:32:21 UTC  

I think you mischaraterised what I said

2017-06-07 15:32:26 UTC  

It was a gradual development

2017-06-07 15:32:28 UTC  

Over time

2017-06-07 15:33:06 UTC  

Councils simply ratified was already largely in place. Most of what the councils did was reactionairy to solidify a certain position of the church in opposition to heretics

2017-06-07 15:33:24 UTC  

I agree, I did say it was a reaction

2017-06-07 15:33:41 UTC  

In fact, that's how it started

2017-06-07 15:33:57 UTC  

an heresy that stated that Jesus wasn't God but a being created in a point of time

2017-06-07 15:34:05 UTC  

Yeah

2017-06-07 15:34:07 UTC  

originated somewhere in Egypt iirc

2017-06-07 15:34:08 UTC  

Absolutely

2017-06-07 15:34:11 UTC  

Yeah

2017-06-07 15:34:13 UTC  

Gnostics as well

2017-06-07 15:34:18 UTC  

followers of Arius

2017-06-07 15:34:22 UTC  

Pelagius

2017-06-07 15:34:30 UTC  

And many others spreading false teachings

2017-06-07 15:34:42 UTC  

Which is why we have Eccumenial Councils, to solidify interperations of Scripture

2017-06-07 15:35:21 UTC  

Yes, but in that sense, the council doesn't replace scripture, nor should it discourage personal reading of it.

2017-06-07 15:35:57 UTC  

It never replaced Scripture

2017-06-07 15:36:09 UTC  

I know i know

2017-06-07 15:36:12 UTC  

But it determines the interperation of it

2017-06-07 15:36:43 UTC  

because misinterperations are easy, especially in something like an English translation *especially* if it's KJV

2017-06-07 15:37:00 UTC  

But some people rely too heavily upon what their church or denomination has said to believe about some passages in scripture

2017-06-07 15:37:07 UTC  

I especially think you're correct

2017-06-07 15:37:11 UTC  

I'm not a fan of the KJV

2017-06-07 15:37:16 UTC  

Relying on the Church is completely normal

2017-06-07 15:37:47 UTC  

What's you vs a clergy? Clergy aren't infallible but are most likely more correct than an normal individual

2017-06-07 15:37:56 UTC  

The KJV was politcal through and through