This fucking guy.

Hegel was a Protestant.

Saving that picture

That's a good one too

Where are you getting these?

I found this website called Google.

I see

I'm going mad.

Feuerbach does not exactly say there is no need for God. He says that God is explained by anthropology. The God that man projects is not the same God posed by Aquinas. He establishes God's essence through logic not inference of common traits.

Did you actually read Feuerbach?

I'm reading it right now https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/feuerbach/works/essence/

I never read Aquinas and probably will never do.

I'm not sure what is a problem.

My understanding is if there is a first mover - he is the one to move first by itself. In this situation universe is criticized as being unable to make the first move and in the same time first mover is able. For me it is just an imaginary situation. The universe is eternally moving as far as we know.

If the first mover can move by himself than the universe also can.

The need of the first mover is not obvious to me.

The first mover is necessary, it is called 'contingent being'. You can read about it here if you want to. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/cosmological-argument/

Anyway, I'm just flapping about being a drama queen. For a normal person ambiguity is not a problem. But my personality does not allow it.

>The first mover is necessary, it is called 'contingent being'.

For who?

Not necessary for me.

Yeah, I'm not explaining it.

Not necessary for most philosophers past 1800

That's because they haven't examined the arguments.

No, they disagree with arguments.

Not that I have seen.

You just disregard the arguments.

That's an insult.

You did disregard my argument and it is not even my. Everybody agrees on this.

Agrees on what?

If you have something able to move by itself - like the universe, than there is no need for the first mover. But you deny universe the ability to move by itself. You think it is about causality. And the cause is just an abstraction.

The reality is different from abstractions of 1300 priest.

Whatever reality is

Is anything pushes atoms to move or they move by itself?

Do they have some kind of charge?

From the first mover?

Where is it registered?

By who?