Message from @Sampuka

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2017-07-07 21:43:11 UTC  

Many many things

2017-07-07 21:43:21 UTC  

@name so if the german revolution had won capitalism in germany would be considered failed by your standard, and otherwise it didn't?

2017-07-07 21:44:02 UTC  

Capitalism was failing in Germany

2017-07-07 21:44:02 UTC  

so did capitalism fail in ireland during the mass starvation?

2017-07-07 21:44:06 UTC  

since the society fell apart

2017-07-07 21:44:08 UTC  

During Weimar Republic

2017-07-07 21:44:30 UTC  

Hitler brought Germany back with third positionist policies

2017-07-07 21:44:38 UTC  

don't know enough about germany to know about weimar I'm afraif

2017-07-07 21:44:47 UTC  

yeah, fascism did a lot of good for capitalism

2017-07-07 21:44:53 UTC  

as with social democracy

2017-07-07 21:44:54 UTC  

For capitalism?

2017-07-07 21:45:04 UTC  

They were third position

2017-07-07 21:45:11 UTC  

it was very much capitalism

2017-07-07 21:45:14 UTC  

Neither capitalist nor communist, it was a mix

2017-07-07 21:45:32 UTC  

you cannot mix, then it's a misunderstanding of definitions

2017-07-07 21:45:32 UTC  

Total state control of most industries, heavy regulations, etc

2017-07-07 21:45:48 UTC  

It wasn't free market capitalism

2017-07-07 21:45:49 UTC  

the state was very much involved in the german economy, not really capitalism

2017-07-07 21:46:14 UTC  

saying that the state has anything to do whether it's capitalism or not is incorrect

2017-07-07 21:46:24 UTC  

wrong

2017-07-07 21:46:40 UTC  

wanna define capitlism for me?

2017-07-07 21:46:43 UTC  

If a state forbids you to sell your ''degenerate'' art then it isn't a capitalistic system

2017-07-07 21:47:05 UTC  

It's heavily regulated capitalism I guess

2017-07-07 21:47:08 UTC  

''some lines and squares on a canvas? can't sell em in this country''

2017-07-07 21:47:24 UTC  

@Timo))) that's just a retarded state

2017-07-07 21:47:32 UTC  

states often are

2017-07-07 21:47:35 UTC  

yeah

2017-07-07 21:47:49 UTC  

The NS German economy worked pretty well

2017-07-07 21:47:58 UTC  

yeah

2017-07-07 21:48:00 UTC  

Pre-war at least

2017-07-07 21:48:17 UTC  

you can argue whether that could last or not, but at that time it worked pretty well afaik

2017-07-07 21:49:25 UTC  

also, where do people get taught that capitalism is the ability to freely trade stuff?

2017-07-07 21:49:40 UTC  

I don't think any prominent economist has said this

2017-07-07 21:49:46 UTC  

most do

2017-07-07 21:49:49 UTC  

It's a more pure, libertarian form of capitalism

2017-07-07 21:50:05 UTC  

Unrestricted capitalism

2017-07-07 21:50:06 UTC  

@Timo))) can you quote any?

2017-07-07 21:50:11 UTC  

Friedman

2017-07-07 21:50:30 UTC  

can you cite him?

2017-07-07 21:50:38 UTC  

I haven't read him

2017-07-07 21:50:48 UTC  

I recommend this debate highly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3N2sNnGwa4