Message from @Timo)))
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Like corporatism and state capitalism
They're still at the end if the day capitalism, economically.
If you have to compete with the state funded company it isn't a free and fair market
the market has become less free when you have to compete with a business that simply will not fail because the state supports it
it's not fair competition
the freer the market the more capitalistic it is
If your definition was true, there wouldn't be monopolies or price gouging or shitty overall employment if there was a free market.
But those often happen in free markets.
Those happen in every system because the governments grants them special treatment
No it doesn't.
Look up standard oil.
In a truly capitalistic society they would only have to do 2 things to rise to the top: deliver the best product at the best price
Name me a system without monopolies
The very reason why monopolies don't exist is because every government has anti-monopoly laws of some sort
Uh
Socialism
lol
lmao
the monopoly there is the state
Define monopoly
The socialist state often make it extremely hard because of all sorts of rules you have to abide to
Right, and the socialist state fits that to a t
And this would be detestable in a working class government, how?
With worker's councils?
Because you forbid it to let people make their own decisions to run their own company, it's anti freedom
You talk a lot about being free, but a free market rarely sees a lot of freedom for those who are employed by the people who reap the nost benefits.
Not everyone will become a business owner.
That's fact.
Probably because they are hindered in opening their own business
It's even worse in Hong Kong, which was rated like the top highest in economic freedom.
Have to deal with the unions, regulations and being taxed to high hell
Yet people from China fled to Hong Kong
They have shitty tenants for their workers to live in. They have lights and water and that's about it, and they have no union representation, and it's often a dirty place.
You would not like to be a working class person from Hong Kong.
Compared to what other country around it?
What's a better country near hong kong?
Indonesia? Malaysia? Japan with it's insane work hours?
None because they're all shitholes and they can be better under socialism.
Compared to your socialist utopia yes