Message from @twook
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None of this has anything to do with socdems and I refuse to just sit here and let you move the goalpost all over the place
@Twig And yes, I did answer, I stated that since their inception, they had this belief.
that's not how ideology works
But that isn't true
@Twig How so?
Commies have always wanted the proletariat to be armed
@Twig No they haven't.
Ask a socdem.
Marx himself said that any attempt to disarm the proletariat is terrible
Socsems aren't fucking communists
@Twig Yes they are.
They are two different albeit related ideologies
They are not the same thing
@Twig They are apart of the same belief, that being marxist socialism, they just use different ways to achieve their goals.
Socdems may want gun control but I frankly don't give a shit because they aren't commies. And if they follow Marx, they're doing a terrible job
Their goals aren't full communism
@Twig And again, if they aren't communist, then why did the soviets, cubans, chinese, venezuelans, soviet occupied european countries, and vietnam disarm their population for the sake of arming their armies?
@Twig If they are marxist-socialists, then their end goal is inherently communism, even if otherwise stated.
Yes I wonder why you'd put a limited amount of guns in the hands of the military huh I really wonder why
@Twig What? I never stated that the military would be given a limited amount of guns, I said that the population had their guns stripped and given to the military or destroyed.
and if the workers remain armed after realizing the workers revolution wasnt a workers revolution then they would be in trouble
Communism is shit
@twook Shush, like I said before, let the man do the arguing for himself.
@Deleted User I agree.
Prove me wrong commies
okay
let;s do it
I'm not sure if I could even be called a commie anymore
20 million people have died because of communism
i lean more towards titoism now i guess
@twook >Collapses the same way as the austro-hungarian empire
Oh boy, you really are lost.
Hello friends what is this server
Ever heard of the "great leap forward"
A little project started by Mao
Is this for smart people
that wasnt really a problem with the policies he had enacted if you ask me
everything only started going to shit after he died and it turned into a nationalist free for all
why is killingpeople bad?
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@twook I didn't know that your entire country collapsing after all of the states within it declare independance wasn't a bad thing.
tito died before that happened and im not in this to discuss nationalism