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@Firefly#9983 Firefly you god damn jew, I thought that you commies hated guns and wanted them to be confiscated.

@Comrade Skeltal Pretty hard to mass produce guns when your country dosen't have any industry at all and you live in a near feudal society, and most of the people are starving.

Since when do commies hate guns?

@Twig Gee, I don't know, ever since their origin?

Commies have never hated guns

@Twig Ask a socdem that question.

They aren't commies

Then why were they present with mao in china during his guriella uprising?

Why would I ask someone if one ideology for details on another ideology?

That's avoiding the question.

No it isn't

@Twig See, you are doing it right now.

@Twig Answer the question, tough guy.

It's an actual question; why would I ask socdems for information on communistw?

This isn't a conversation about how socdems hate guns it's about how communists don't hate guns.

This had nothing to do with socdems until you brought them up for no apparent reason

@Twig You forget that socialism is inherently a feature in communism, infact, according to marxists, socialism is the step to communism, meaning that you could have just classified the soviets and chinese as radical socialists, the democratic socialists are just more moderate than that of the soviets, and the chinese.

@Twig NOW BACK TO THE QUESTION, what would a demsoc say about gun control?

You know there are socialists who don't want communism right?

That's a strawman right there.

I don't give a shit what socdems say about guns because this isn't about socdems

@Twig Except that is the question I have been asking and you have been dodging.

You said socialism is a transition from capitalism to communism. Not everyone sees it that way

@Twig I didn't say that.

I asked you when commies hated guns. You mever answered and instead started talking about socdems

@Twig Let me elaborate, the socdems are inhereintly a marxist-socialist belief, so are the communists, and they believe that socialism is the step towards communism, meaning that they are inhereintly apart of the same idea.

None of this has anything to do with socdems and I refuse to just sit here and let you move the goalpost all over the place

@Twig And yes, I did answer, I stated that since their inception, they had this belief.

that's not how ideology works

But that isn't true

@Twig How so?

Commies have always wanted the proletariat to be armed

@Twig No they haven't.

Ask a socdem.

Marx himself said that any attempt to disarm the proletariat is terrible

Socsems aren't fucking communists

@Twig Yes they are.

They are two different albeit related ideologies

They are not the same thing