Message from @alines

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2018-03-09 23:12:56 UTC  

But it is a good thing that you backtracked on your previous statement.

2018-03-09 23:13:11 UTC  

@Firefly#9983 I think that turned out pretty well.

2018-03-09 23:14:58 UTC  

@Deleted User He is just playing with you like with a pet.

2018-03-09 23:15:22 UTC  

@Firefly#9983 I doubt that.

2018-03-09 23:17:01 UTC  

he disagreed with about few things.
he said that the anarchists were deprived and were attacked by republicans.
**falange had help.**
anarchists did pretty pretty well without any foreign aid to speak of, but that eventually took its toll

2018-03-09 23:18:30 UTC  

@alines Falange had help from germany and italy if I am correct.

2018-03-09 23:18:58 UTC  

republicans unwittingly helped them destroy the anarchists too

2018-03-09 23:19:20 UTC  

just as well to their ends anyway

2018-03-09 23:19:28 UTC  

Yeah, the anarchists did pretty well at terrorizing the citizens and engaging in pointless destruction of national monuments. Dumbass reactionary anarkiddies.

2018-03-09 23:19:57 UTC  

@alines Not exactly, they attacked the anarchists, which was a benefit to the falange and franco, but they didn't intend to benefit the fascists.

2018-03-09 23:20:30 UTC  

Anywhere anarchists have taken power, it's been off the backs of Marxists and resulted in mini police states like Makhnovia.

2018-03-09 23:20:41 UTC  

Scumbags.

2018-03-09 23:21:07 UTC  

**holodomor**

2018-03-09 23:21:08 UTC  

Anarchists need to be shut down whenever they gain even so much as a sliver of power.

2018-03-09 23:21:17 UTC  

By force if necessary.

2018-03-09 23:21:26 UTC  

@alines What about it?

2018-03-09 23:21:48 UTC  

@Deleted User Is stalin's ghost controlling this account?

2018-03-09 23:22:49 UTC  

tankies aren't so nice either.
in fact as bad as they say we are, they are thousands of times worse themselves.
starving ukraine, enslaving hungary

2018-03-09 23:23:39 UTC  

really good people i tell ya

2018-03-09 23:24:15 UTC  

the hungarians weren't even anarchists

2018-03-09 23:24:29 UTC  

they were marxists too

2018-03-09 23:24:53 UTC  

goes to show how friendly they are even to each other

2018-03-09 23:25:06 UTC  

@alines Holodomor didn't happen intentionally, it was just the result of a starvation, and stalin leaving the population high and dry.

2018-03-09 23:27:15 UTC  

It was bad because of the famine, but because stalin left the population high and dry because they couldn't cough up the quouta's, then just decided to leave them alone to deal with it.

2018-03-09 23:28:02 UTC  

oh, but i guess the tankies weren't incompetent, no, the anarchists were

2018-03-09 23:28:32 UTC  

I wasn't talking about their compitence though.

2018-03-09 23:28:51 UTC  

it does call their competence into question

2018-03-09 23:29:34 UTC  

Yep, the soviets were pretty damn incompitent, but somehow managed survive, the anarchists however......

2018-03-09 23:30:35 UTC  

how could stalin let those 30000000 ukrainians starve if it was unintentional?
any incompetent state could survive a small group of peasants desu

2018-03-09 23:31:12 UTC  

no matter how competent the peasants are

2018-03-09 23:31:33 UTC  

You've already got mass starvation in the soviet union, where food is scarce, and what do you do when you've got a famine in ukraine that is affecting millions?

2018-03-09 23:31:44 UTC  

You literally cannot do jackshit about it unless you want more to starve.

2018-03-09 23:33:05 UTC  

Hunger was all over SU majorly in Russia, Kazakhstan and Ukraine

2018-03-09 23:34:03 UTC  

@Firefly#9983 How the fuck did lenin and stalin manage to make starvation even worse than under the russian empire in the middle of WW1?

2018-03-09 23:34:23 UTC  

@Deleted User was it worse?

2018-03-09 23:34:45 UTC  

Yes.

2018-03-09 23:35:57 UTC  

There been hunger in Russian Empire before WW1 much worse

2018-03-09 23:36:19 UTC  

No there wasn't.

2018-03-09 23:36:45 UTC  

Wait, how far before WW1 are we talking?

2018-03-09 23:40:37 UTC  

The famine was noted, for example, in 1024, 1070, 1092, 1128, 1215, 1230-1231, 1279, 1309 and 1332. Further famine was noted in 1422, 1442, 1512, 1553, 1557 and 1570 years. The reasons were the same as in modern times: drought, excess rain, early frosts, "pruzi" ( locusts ), etc. The XVII century was opened by a terrible famine under Boris Godunov in 1601 and 1602.The famine broke out again in 1608, 1630 and 1636 During the famine in the Nizhny Novgorod province in 1734-1735 peasants fed on rotten oak corn, ate oak acorns, etc. In general, the number of crop failures and famines during the XVII, XVIII and XIX centuries is increasing. In the XVIII century there were 34 crop failures, and during the XIX century only until 1854 there were 35 of them. In 1842, the government stated that the crop failure is repeated every 6-7 years, lasting two years in a row. For the second half of the XIX century, hunger was especially violent, caused by crop failures of 1873, 1880 and 1883. In 1891-1892, 16 provinces of European Russia and Tobol'sk province in Siberia were famished) with a population of 35 million;

2018-03-09 23:40:54 UTC  

All of that until Stalin. After him no more famines