The general rule is IDC what your ideology is as long as you aren't actively calling for violence and or participating I it

I don't remember the specifics of that one

And what if a government is keeping people in crushing poverty using violence? @F0X~{A Walker}

Is it then ok to overthrow them in violent revolution?

Care to give an example

Say, America today

any capitalist society

@Borzo care to elaborate on that?

Are you talking about the supposed cop on black racism

Which somehow means every time a black man is arrested it's racist

No

I mean people are forcefully kept in poverty through means of the state so the rich can prosper

And hence a lot of people turn to crime

Take another example

Russia 1916

@Borzo are you talking about welfare legislation and the minority ghettos?

Where the tsar is forcefully executing dissidents, keeping people in crushing poverty and sending those that don't to the front line

For USA

This doesn't have much to do with racism

Not russia

This is more about class

1% of the population own 40% of the bottom populations wealth

Ok but isn't it probable that certain races more likely to be of a certain class

Depending on the country

Somewhat

Usually black people are poor because of their historical material conditions

Not to say that there aren't white people who are just as poor

But many leftists see it as black people were kept as slaves through the justifications of racism

"They're black, so they aren't as human as you"

"Therefore it's ok to own them as slaves"

Which was quite a classfuckery

Because under capitalism, slavery is supposed t be abolished and the class relations be proletarian vs bourgeoisie

You niggas still circle jerking?

However, these capitalists found slaves for sale in Africa, since they were still in the early stage of slave societies

And they bought these slaves for profit there

It is simply undialectical

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owning slaves is le ancap

I'll put it as how comrade stalin explains it

"The slave system would be senseless, stupid and unnatural under modern conditions. But under the conditions of a disintegrating primitive communal system, the slave system is a quite understandable and natural phenomenon, since it represents an advance on the primitive communal system"