**But then you have to explain why many reactionaries are using the term 'race realism' instead of plain old 'racism'.**

But no, not eveyone is actually racist. Recognising 'inherent' differences between people? What makes them so 'inherent'? It is nothing besides biological heredity, which is trivial. However, to justify your politics, you have to argue that our present biologies are inherent to us and inherently control us without our will and our input, and that this will always be the case or will be the case for at least the next 50 or so year.

**There's a huge leap between recognising differences between races and enforced racial segregation at a national level of planning**

```racial micing is genocide
diveristy is un obtainable if you mix ppl```

***First, it's an idol that people believe in. You want people to keep their idols, do you not? So why do you make a special case out of anti-racism on the grounds that it's genocidal? Many sects of the Abrahamic religions are bloodthirsty. Are you willing to give them a pass on the same grounds? Why are you picking and choosing?***

```>muh images
```

'Racemixing' is a straw man!

You've previously assumed that my politics can only be achieved using a homogeneous population.

No, in fact, it does not. And with use of biological engineering, there can in fact be an *increased* diversity.

But this does not mean that we need ethnic and racial segregation.

**The point is that we have to be conscious and radical about our uses of these structures and technologies, and that we can still uphold something deeply universal and cooperative across people of all kinds.**

```This is a vague statement
```

What's vague?

```Are you fucking kidding me btw
animals dont do things because of their biology ??, have you ever heard of the clownfish
a clown fish has a symbiotic relation with the anomene. They developed a biology that changes the properties of its skinby getting stung, resulting in a slimy layer on the fish that allows it to slide past the ?stingers? of the anomone
You can take a clownfish that never seen a anomone in its life and py them togheter
and the fish moves in to have itself get stung
This is biological predeterminated behaviour
```

We're not talking about clownfish, we're talking about humans, including *you*.

You can cry 'poetic term' all you like, but you are making a leap from biological differences to political differences.

***Can you explain your own behaviour in terms of biology?***

```parcially it tots is```

Then you're using a different definition of 'class' to the one I'm using.

Mine focusses on a sustained configuration of society rather than this highly ahistorical notion of 'specialisation', which is trivial.

@Garbage mate if your Aussie or not you have to admit one thing about race. The Abos really are at the bottom of the pile. Now that I’ve made my point I’m of to 4chan

Then go back there.

Anyway, back to another self-retarding fool:

**My point is that you don't get to talk about a general triviality and then propose a politics which is not trivial whatsoever. We do not have to live with an enforced form of racial segregation at a national or even a city-state level.**

```Are you saying that there isnt always a input, need, disaster, moment, event that is corrupting the freedom of a person.? lol```

I'm saying that by your definition of what 'corruption' is, there *is* infinite corruption everywhere. By my definition, there is not, but I know that you will insist on saying that I'm endorsing yours.

Your definitions crumbles into a tautology. You're being a sciolist again.

Because of this, you have absolutely no way of jumping from this aethereal abstraction to a concrete politics, because what you're saying is true of your own politics too.

Ethnic segregation can be against peoples' 'higher' and more 'rational' wills. I can construct an infinite amount of game-theoretic thought experiments and also produce realistic case studies to show this.

Ethnic segregationists themselves frequently engage in 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' tactics: take white nationalists allying with Islamists against Jews as just *one* example.

They share some kind of commons of tradition alongside the commons of reasoning, do they not?

```The whole nature of social engineering is to steer the innner desire, the will in to a corrupted ideal```

Again, what are the concrete natures of this 'corruption'? You can talk about this general and amorphous notion all you like, but until you don't, you're throwing an uncontroversial truism which was never my focus to begin with.

```Your infinte study "argument" is bogus. You cant say, because the posibility of potential non existing studies in the futer the truth that has been in place for centuries or even millenia is false
The nature of man has changed very little
which is why social engineering works so well
and has been working for centuries or longer
looking at religion you can easily say millenia
It works because ppl have preset metofs of opperation that are steerable if you know them well enough
The whole consumer industry functions on this```

For fuck's sake. I already said that I wasn't making an argument based on Hume's induction principle.

This is to do with the act of one reflecting upon what one is producing a change within oneself which means that they are not identical to what they were before. This is causally attributed not to biological processes but to thought itself - *their own subjectivity*. Biological processes themselves can't keep up.

**You talk about how human society hasn't changed for millennia. Yet human societies have been around for hundreds of millennia and religions as we know them today have not existed for that length of time.**

Christianity is 2,000 years old, for example.

Capitalism - the dominance of generalised commodity production - has only existed for less than *500* years.

You're telling me that humans haven't changed when there has been so much concrete change around us which also happens to be accelerating with reference to multiple metrics?

Can you attribute capitalism, Christian theology (you've had a chance to look up Aquinas's thought, but I bet you haven't taken it) and so on to biological factors and nothing more? If not, you admit that biology cannot account for everything we do as humans and that there is something else that has a controlling factor.