Message from @JeffDog

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2019-06-27 23:51:09 UTC  

you could say religion is based on emotion

2019-06-27 23:51:21 UTC  

and that shaped human society forever basically

2019-06-27 23:51:24 UTC  

Yes, but what does it do?

2019-06-27 23:51:30 UTC  

I feel like most of religion is built on emotion.

2019-06-27 23:51:47 UTC  

art is emotional

2019-06-27 23:52:33 UTC  

Emotion correspond to motivation. You know, you eat because your hungry. So emotions motivate decisions, but it doesn't lead to good decisions in itself.

2019-06-27 23:53:26 UTC  

So humans being emotional simply means humans are prompted to do.

2019-06-27 23:53:55 UTC  

Large parts of emotional wiring share things with sensations.

2019-06-27 23:54:06 UTC  

Like if i punch you, it hurts.

2019-06-27 23:54:21 UTC  

If you're feelings are hurt, it, well, hurts.

2019-06-27 23:54:51 UTC  

So all you're really saying is humans feel sensations. That's it.

2019-06-27 23:55:29 UTC  

Rayn, do you think that emotions started with things like single-celled organisms being attracted to food and helpful things and repelled by dangerous substances and organisms?

2019-06-27 23:55:54 UTC  

No.

2019-06-27 23:55:55 UTC  

Emotions and sensations seem like essentially the same thing to me.

2019-06-27 23:56:39 UTC  

You're familiar with Boltzman entropy?

2019-06-27 23:56:47 UTC  

Emotions seem like sensations based on brain signals, rather than directly on sensory input.

2019-06-27 23:56:57 UTC  

No, not at all. I can look it up though.

2019-06-27 23:57:36 UTC  

Ooh, duh. Yes, entropy. I am familiar.

2019-06-27 23:57:38 UTC  

ok rayn what do you do for fun since thats an emotional thing

2019-06-27 23:57:39 UTC  

sorry, brain fart

2019-06-27 23:58:00 UTC  

Microstates

2019-06-27 23:59:28 UTC  

Basically, energy from the sun hits the Earth in unequal ways. Well, just like how warm water cools, that heat dissipated.

2019-06-28 00:00:05 UTC  

If you take warm water, you have little order, but if you freeze it, you have order that forms the solid of ice.

2019-06-28 00:00:57 UTC  

The order of life is created from energy from geological vents and the sun dissipating where replication is a good way to do so.

2019-06-28 00:01:38 UTC  

Basically, life replicates because it is acting as entropy on the environment.

2019-06-28 00:02:35 UTC  

Single celled organisms came to be because of energy dissipation and hydrophobic and hydrophilic molecular interaction.

2019-06-28 00:02:48 UTC  

Emotions are waaaaaaay more abstract.

2019-06-28 00:03:38 UTC  

When you eat and shit, the shit is in a more disordered state. You built order in yourself but made the universe more disordered.

2019-06-28 00:04:32 UTC  

You know how oil and water don't mix. Something like that is how life came to be.

2019-06-28 00:05:33 UTC  

Basically, something got energy, the energy spread out, created order, and the most convenient way for it to spread is by life eating stuff

2019-06-28 00:05:54 UTC  

All the energy of your body likely came from the sun.

2019-06-28 00:06:24 UTC  

Life is nothing more than a really good solar powered engine.

2019-06-28 00:08:29 UTC  

I agree that emotions are far more abstract than anything a single-celled organism experiences, but I tend to think they are basically super-complex versions of sensations, involving far more neurons.

2019-06-28 00:08:30 UTC  

I love mathematical elegance, and the math behind life is gorgeous.

2019-06-28 00:08:55 UTC  

I would love to know more about the math behind life.

2019-06-28 00:08:57 UTC  

😄

2019-06-28 00:09:16 UTC  

Emotions are only slightly caused by neurons.

2019-06-28 00:09:25 UTC  

Is cortisol a neuron?

2019-06-28 00:09:33 UTC  

I love the math behind physics, and any science has elegant math that can blow the mind.

2019-06-28 00:09:38 UTC  

How about adrenaline?

2019-06-28 00:09:53 UTC  

Testosterone?