Message from @liquidnight
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Communism has no state
Ok I am neither writing of communism nor of capitalism. I do not endorse any of those.
then what are you?
you seem like some mega centrist or a fucking warlordist
anarchist ?
I go against the psychopathic behaviour archetype !
how are you an anarchist?
The abolishment of the state and then what?
just people wondering around?
the abolition of the principle of violence !
ok you are clearly shitposting
people go voluntarily into communities.
wheres the problem with that?
there's no bigdaddy-government any more
ok
communism wants that as well
leaders are what kill people
just - I have never seen this variant of communism. Still why name it communism, if the other community makes its own decisions ?
because eventually that community that still values currency in any way will eventually find a way to make a hierarchy
with that so begins the cycle once more
`[02:04] Ned Kelly: leaders are what kill people ` ==> NO !!
to lead has 2 meanings:
* by violence
* by example
1.The killing aspect is only for the first type.
2. It is called to murder, not to kill
hierarchy is not bad - if they decide it voluntarily !
And when will it decay?
when will it corrupt?
because it has happened before in Soviet Union, look what happened there
If they elect a fascist, what do you think will happen?
Hierarchy just creates the state
`[02:05] Ned Kelly: with that so begins the cycle once more ` NO !!
did you consume right-wing propaganda ?
The cycle begins when people accept **initiating violence **
That's it what I want to get away from !
Wait: when will what decay or corrupt ??
Hierarchies will create violence
and decay happens because of corruption
this isn't how the world works man
`02:07] Ned Kelly: If they elect a fascist, what do you think will happen? ` NO !
To elect does not mean to govern !!
Why do you have a hard time to think outside the dominator matrix ??
`02:07] Ned Kelly: Hierarchy just creates the state ` -> wrong.
Hierarchy is a concept, the concept does not do anything.
The current corporate-state is a result of carelessness of the people. And of their **will** to initiate violence against their neighbours.
`02:08] Ned Kelly: Hierarchies will create violence ` --> no thats wrong.
Violent individuals create violence. Not hierarchy.
>hierarchy is a concept
no shit
`[02:08] Ned Kelly: and decay happens because of corruption ` --> corruption happens only ** inside a society-of-violence** !!
everything is a concept
Hierarchies are what encourage violence