Message from @liquidnight

Discord ID: 604826981917523978


2019-07-28 00:01:38 UTC  

Communism has no state

2019-07-28 00:01:43 UTC  

Ok I am neither writing of communism nor of capitalism. I do not endorse any of those.

2019-07-28 00:01:56 UTC  

then what are you?

2019-07-28 00:02:07 UTC  

you seem like some mega centrist or a fucking warlordist

2019-07-28 00:02:17 UTC  

anarchist ?

2019-07-28 00:02:28 UTC  

I go against the psychopathic behaviour archetype !

2019-07-28 00:02:46 UTC  

how are you an anarchist?

2019-07-28 00:02:54 UTC  

The abolishment of the state and then what?

2019-07-28 00:03:04 UTC  

just people wondering around?

2019-07-28 00:03:09 UTC  

the abolition of the principle of violence !

2019-07-28 00:03:19 UTC  

ok you are clearly shitposting

2019-07-28 00:03:25 UTC  

people go voluntarily into communities.

2019-07-28 00:03:30 UTC  

wheres the problem with that?

2019-07-28 00:03:57 UTC  

there's no bigdaddy-government any more

2019-07-28 00:04:06 UTC  

ok

2019-07-28 00:04:10 UTC  

communism wants that as well

2019-07-28 00:04:21 UTC  

leaders are what kill people

2019-07-28 00:05:01 UTC  

just - I have never seen this variant of communism. Still why name it communism, if the other community makes its own decisions ?

2019-07-28 00:05:34 UTC  

because eventually that community that still values currency in any way will eventually find a way to make a hierarchy

2019-07-28 00:05:41 UTC  

with that so begins the cycle once more

2019-07-28 00:06:29 UTC  

`[02:04] Ned Kelly: leaders are what kill people ` ==> NO !!
to lead has 2 meanings:
* by violence
* by example

1.The killing aspect is only for the first type.
2. It is called to murder, not to kill

2019-07-28 00:07:00 UTC  

hierarchy is not bad - if they decide it voluntarily !

2019-07-28 00:07:09 UTC  

And when will it decay?

2019-07-28 00:07:12 UTC  

when will it corrupt?

2019-07-28 00:07:23 UTC  

because it has happened before in Soviet Union, look what happened there

2019-07-28 00:07:44 UTC  

If they elect a fascist, what do you think will happen?

2019-07-28 00:07:52 UTC  

Hierarchy just creates the state

2019-07-28 00:08:04 UTC  

`[02:05] Ned Kelly: with that so begins the cycle once more ` NO !!
did you consume right-wing propaganda ?

The cycle begins when people accept **initiating violence **
That's it what I want to get away from !

2019-07-28 00:08:25 UTC  

Wait: when will what decay or corrupt ??

2019-07-28 00:08:42 UTC  

Hierarchies will create violence

2019-07-28 00:08:50 UTC  

and decay happens because of corruption

2019-07-28 00:08:59 UTC  

this isn't how the world works man

2019-07-28 00:09:22 UTC  

`02:07] Ned Kelly: If they elect a fascist, what do you think will happen? ` NO !
To elect does not mean to govern !!

Why do you have a hard time to think outside the dominator matrix ??

2019-07-28 00:10:27 UTC  

`02:07] Ned Kelly: Hierarchy just creates the state ` -> wrong.

Hierarchy is a concept, the concept does not do anything.

The current corporate-state is a result of carelessness of the people. And of their **will** to initiate violence against their neighbours.

2019-07-28 00:10:57 UTC  

`02:08] Ned Kelly: Hierarchies will create violence ` --> no thats wrong.

2019-07-28 00:11:17 UTC  

Violent individuals create violence. Not hierarchy.

2019-07-28 00:11:47 UTC  

>hierarchy is a concept

2019-07-28 00:11:49 UTC  

no shit

2019-07-28 00:11:50 UTC  

`[02:08] Ned Kelly: and decay happens because of corruption ` --> corruption happens only ** inside a society-of-violence** !!

2019-07-28 00:11:52 UTC  

everything is a concept

2019-07-28 00:12:10 UTC  

Hierarchies are what encourage violence