Message from @Ned Kelly

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2019-08-05 01:54:39 UTC  
2019-08-05 01:58:41 UTC  

Trump and Hilary silently have the same "funders" of sorts that only care about their next million-billion dollar paycheck they can acquire from their two specific puppets mandated together to fight for a cause that are, if you look close enough, are just the same neoliberalized ideology that was created in order to keep the economy in an always chaotic and messy state....

Bernie and the other libertarian candidates are still puppets to the machine they claim to be against, especially Bernie sanders, who is still only in it for a money, however his goals can be slightly varied as he is a social democrat, an economic system that tries to get rid of the bad things in capitalism but fails to each time mainly due to corruption or their lack of coordination in their planning (Brazil and Mexico being a good examples of failures while Denmark and Norway being examples of it working). But in the end they fail to get rid of any of the hierarchical structures that have long sense been plaguing this accursed Earth since man's existence. But now that people are not relying on it so much, it is likely there will be some wanting of reformation and change in the society.

Trump is just a failed plan that has made more fascists than anything, but not as much as Hilary probably would've due to her madness and corruption being on another scale

Schools are what keep the poor poor and the rich rich, they are designed flawed to create the perfect citizen of X country and at any wish of their own entire generations worth of knowledge can be rewritten or changed if it didn't suit the times. 1984 is in one of the "required/recommended" reading books for most people since it reminds us of the way it is becoming or how bad it could be.

2019-08-05 02:11:06 UTC  

Very informative. I do see what you are pointing out. But is it really as horrible as it was in 1984? What Winston Smith went through and saw.
I mean in terms of cruelty. In terms of propaganda, I have no doubt. In fact people like Trump other of his cronies or any other politicians, feel very good examples of double think. I feel they apply so well, that's how they lie so well, while making themselves look really honest about it.
I have read the novel fairly recently so my memory is still fresh in some places. Though I have heard our times, seems more similar to Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Though I haven't read it yet. But Have listened to his audio ultimate revolution.

2019-08-05 02:16:04 UTC  

If it makes you feel better, the appendix describing new speak is written in past tense :)))

2019-08-05 02:16:33 UTC  

I mean there was a point where Winston literally confessed to wanting to rape and then murder Julia because he thought she was a Thought police

2019-08-05 02:17:03 UTC  

Trump does **a stupid amount** of double thought

2019-08-05 02:17:09 UTC  

almost to the point of insanity

2019-08-05 02:41:12 UTC  

Past tense, as in now for us. After all I remember 1984 is about a totalitarian dictatorship of the future. But we still don't have as much cruelty and the continuous fear of thought crime as there was in the novel. We still feel fairly free and when it comes to Winston Smith he was more pessimistic about socialism and sort of longed for the past a kind of private property longing and privacy in general, and even though he kept a little hope in the paroles, he was still was way too pessimistic about the future. Orwell was channeling a bit in himself in Winston.

Winston was afraid Julia might report him for thought crime. That's why otherwise he did wanted a lot to be loyal to her. He did not like his previous wife and want to through her off from somewhere, I don't remember now. ||Though yeah I remember when Winston met O Brien he already said about betraying, lying and breaking all loyalties, though I don't remember exactly if he mentioned Julia, but I remember breaking all ties to rebel against big brother.
What happens in the end is just way too cruel. For both of them Julia and Winston, I mean ||

2019-08-05 03:16:30 UTC  

That is the reality that we face soon enough

2019-08-05 03:16:39 UTC  

but time is an ever expanding window

2019-08-05 03:19:28 UTC  

idc

2019-08-05 04:10:30 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583448865881980929/607787492019798036/image0-96.jpg

2019-08-05 04:10:30 UTC  

Whoopsie.

2019-08-05 04:24:13 UTC  

stupid

2019-08-05 04:24:20 UTC  

1. Antifa aren't liberals

2019-08-05 04:25:29 UTC  

2. Antifa isn't an organization but an idea, they are mostly Left Wing Communists to Socialists

2019-08-05 04:26:28 UTC  

3. His reasoning was that El Paso was a Democrat stronghold so attacking anyone would do

2019-08-05 04:26:47 UTC  

4. Antifa unlawfully commits acts of intimidation and violence to further their political agenda

2019-08-05 04:27:02 UTC  

and fascists don't?

2019-08-05 04:27:10 UTC  

you have done more shootings than we have

2019-08-05 04:27:11 UTC  

never said anyone else didn't or does

2019-08-05 04:27:17 UTC  

wtf do you mean?

2019-08-05 04:27:21 UTC  

im not a fucking nazi lol

2019-08-05 04:27:24 UTC  

oh lol

2019-08-05 04:27:31 UTC  

I assumed you were my b

2019-08-05 04:27:33 UTC  

im a proud redskin

2019-08-05 04:27:36 UTC  

my guy

2019-08-05 04:27:45 UTC  

edgy but ok

2019-08-05 04:27:52 UTC  

im dying of smallpox cuz you gave my tribe blankets

2019-08-05 04:27:53 UTC  

dude

2019-08-05 04:27:54 UTC  

like

2019-08-05 04:27:55 UTC  

wtf

2019-08-05 04:27:57 UTC  

man

2019-08-05 04:28:17 UTC  

bruh

2019-08-05 04:28:21 UTC  

that wasn't me tho

2019-08-05 04:28:25 UTC  

that was the spaniards

2019-08-05 04:28:26 UTC  

dude...

2019-08-05 04:28:30 UTC  

dude

2019-08-05 04:28:31 UTC  

dont make me cum bro...

2019-08-05 04:28:34 UTC  

again...