Message from @Prometheus

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2019-08-05 18:01:53 UTC  

hiter and stalin's sole purpose was ubermensch?

2019-08-05 18:06:37 UTC  

The Übermensch as an idea was more costly than it could imagine, but they still fought each other for the blood god that is war for small gains

2019-08-05 18:06:59 UTC  

The language when we use to explain power relations was revealed more through Nietzsche than anyone else I know of.
@Deleted User No not purpose not initially but the end of almost every human being is to attain highest amount of power and Ubermensch was they highest ideal as they were all influenced by Nietzsche at the time. It was an age when man abandoned God and shaped himself as one and as Nietzsche had idealized. Though there were elements he didn't wanted violence and the same time he contradicted himself. But ultimately it was to overcome his conscious and be a complete super man is he would have want it. Sometimes even transcending his humanity even to brutality and torture. You can find it our yourself by exposing yourself to his writings.

2019-08-05 18:10:20 UTC  

The full audio up there will reveal very well how Nietzsche thought. It's marvelously written and the audio is great also pretty great. One the most excellent presentations on Nietzsche I have heard.

2019-08-05 18:11:54 UTC  

have you studied fascism this intensively as well?

2019-08-05 18:15:55 UTC  

Here Bertrand Russell's analysis on Nietzsche. A more reputable Philosopher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGDZcifLpdA

@Deleted User No that extensively, but to a certain extent. Mostly my ideas come from my influences. Generally more of a person who believes in free market system like Capitalism and US constitution which preserves individual rights and the bill of rights and secularism.

2019-08-05 18:16:49 UTC  

you watched cultured thug?

2019-08-05 18:16:59 UTC  

he has some pretty good videos on fascism

2019-08-05 18:18:08 UTC  

I don't believe a certain party should have ideological control over the majority of the people. It should based freely without much cultural biases and should allow maximum freedom to the individual it can provide.
@Deleted User No I haven't, but I will do thanks.

2019-08-05 18:18:23 UTC  

where is all this coming from

2019-08-05 18:19:19 UTC  

you do know national socialist Germany practiced positive Christianity and freedom of religion as if the religion was not parasitical to the nation.

2019-08-05 18:20:08 UTC  

Yes, I know but do you also know about Wagnerian roots and Paganism practiced as well at the time?

2019-08-05 18:20:34 UTC  

The Aryan Race and all that stuff wasn't all Christianity you know?

2019-08-05 18:20:48 UTC  

i know this

2019-08-05 18:21:42 UTC  

@Prometheus what is freedom to you?

2019-08-05 18:21:45 UTC  

paganism is quite national socialistic in some regards depending on what kind of paganism we're speaking of

2019-08-05 18:21:48 UTC  

So it wasn't your friendly neighborhood Christianity. It was rooted to Mussolini. And the Catholic Church which is a strong power on it's own.

2019-08-05 18:22:04 UTC  

thats bs

2019-08-05 18:23:48 UTC  

@Freedom for me, is the right of individual choice or belief what he or she choses as long as it does not infringe upon the rights of others.
You know the libertarian stuff.

2019-08-05 18:24:10 UTC  

What do you do when a belief wants to take that away from people?

2019-08-05 18:24:11 UTC  

@Deleted User That is not bs.

2019-08-05 18:24:29 UTC  

what do mean by friendly neighborhood christianity

2019-08-05 18:24:59 UTC  

Then it's anti freedom belief and should be refrained or kept in your own backyard and not into public space.

2019-08-05 18:25:05 UTC  

the national socialist movement was always regarded as a Christian movement whether you regard hitler as christian or not

2019-08-05 18:25:16 UTC  

How do you prevent people from sharing those beliefs?

2019-08-05 18:25:24 UTC  

Hitler wasn’t a christian nor an atheist lol

2019-08-05 18:25:36 UTC  

he was deist

2019-08-05 18:25:41 UTC  

Eh

2019-08-05 18:25:51 UTC  

you could probably catagorize him in mutliple places

2019-08-05 18:25:59 UTC  

I would say more of a “pagan” but honestly idk if that would be correct

2019-08-05 18:26:00 UTC  

Hitler was Christian in a way to fool the masses.

2019-08-05 18:26:05 UTC  

He worshipped the universe

2019-08-05 18:26:06 UTC  

Aye

2019-08-05 18:26:21 UTC  

to fool the masses?

2019-08-05 18:26:26 UTC  

he grew up catholic

2019-08-05 18:26:31 UTC  

and just wanted to fool the masses

2019-08-05 18:27:00 UTC  

Yes, What Christian anyway where did Jesus go. I don't think he would approve of the Aryan Race.

2019-08-05 18:27:00 UTC  

but protected their right to be christian

2019-08-05 18:27:39 UTC  

All Races are made by God in his own image. You know that right?

2019-08-05 18:28:18 UTC  

im not a christian <:Shieet:600386554665500712>

2019-08-05 18:29:08 UTC  

" What Christian anyway where Jesus go"