Message from @Prometheus

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2019-08-05 17:47:46 UTC  

And honestly i feel like John Norman said that

2019-08-05 17:47:50 UTC  

And not Nietzsche

2019-08-05 17:48:01 UTC  

Mainly because the video doesnt give a source

2019-08-05 17:48:31 UTC  

@Ned Kelly
Nietzche

2019-08-05 17:48:44 UTC  

vid is from Will Durant

2019-08-05 17:48:47 UTC  

audio

2019-08-05 17:48:57 UTC  

pretty credible to me

2019-08-05 17:48:59 UTC  

What book?

2019-08-05 17:49:19 UTC  

I don't know exactly but I'll tell when I find out.

2019-08-05 17:50:02 UTC  

do you fellows believe men and women are equal?

2019-08-05 17:52:12 UTC  

But have no mistake about Nietzsche he was opposed to Christanity and his comparison to feminism comes from a certain point of view.
You can't think his ubermensch was benign. It was about power. Yes, the Nazis misunderstood his philosophy but it's elements did embody. Power of the will above everything else.

2019-08-05 17:53:21 UTC  
2019-08-05 17:53:22 UTC  

Nietzsche hated nationalism because he thought it would weaken the Übermensch

2019-08-05 17:54:13 UTC  

@Deleted User they should be equal but our culture has evolved to the point that it would take massive change of revolution for it to be so

2019-08-05 17:54:28 UTC  

Yes, true. But not the ideal of Ubermensch overpowering overall. He believed in the control of strong Aristocracy over the people.

2019-08-05 17:54:51 UTC  

That people should die over the ideal of the superman and his goals.

2019-08-05 17:54:58 UTC  

equal with less mothers?

2019-08-05 17:55:03 UTC  

and less offspring?

2019-08-05 17:55:44 UTC  

what

2019-08-05 17:56:36 UTC  

The audio is from "The Story of Philosophy" book I am sure you know about it.
https://archive.org/stream/TheStoryOfPhilosophyWillDurant/The%20Story%20Of%20Philosophy-Will%20Durant_djvu.txt

2019-08-05 17:57:24 UTC  

Friedrich Nietzsche is covered in it.

2019-08-05 17:58:03 UTC  

Idk much about Will Durant but ive heard of the “Story of Philosophy”

2019-08-05 17:59:26 UTC  

People were sacrificial pawns for the Übermensch goals. That's how we got all those heavy high leaders. Like Hitler or Stalin. You would remember Stalin was also named as a Man of Steel. What do you think that identifies too?

2019-08-05 18:00:57 UTC  

Nietzsche's philosophy has brought a lot of horrors yet revealed many truths about ourselves which we do not like to confront most of the times in our life.

2019-08-05 18:01:53 UTC  

hiter and stalin's sole purpose was ubermensch?

2019-08-05 18:06:37 UTC  

The Übermensch as an idea was more costly than it could imagine, but they still fought each other for the blood god that is war for small gains

2019-08-05 18:06:59 UTC  

The language when we use to explain power relations was revealed more through Nietzsche than anyone else I know of.
@Deleted User No not purpose not initially but the end of almost every human being is to attain highest amount of power and Ubermensch was they highest ideal as they were all influenced by Nietzsche at the time. It was an age when man abandoned God and shaped himself as one and as Nietzsche had idealized. Though there were elements he didn't wanted violence and the same time he contradicted himself. But ultimately it was to overcome his conscious and be a complete super man is he would have want it. Sometimes even transcending his humanity even to brutality and torture. You can find it our yourself by exposing yourself to his writings.

2019-08-05 18:10:20 UTC  

The full audio up there will reveal very well how Nietzsche thought. It's marvelously written and the audio is great also pretty great. One the most excellent presentations on Nietzsche I have heard.

2019-08-05 18:11:54 UTC  

have you studied fascism this intensively as well?

2019-08-05 18:15:55 UTC  

Here Bertrand Russell's analysis on Nietzsche. A more reputable Philosopher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGDZcifLpdA

@Deleted User No that extensively, but to a certain extent. Mostly my ideas come from my influences. Generally more of a person who believes in free market system like Capitalism and US constitution which preserves individual rights and the bill of rights and secularism.

2019-08-05 18:16:49 UTC  

you watched cultured thug?

2019-08-05 18:16:59 UTC  

he has some pretty good videos on fascism

2019-08-05 18:18:08 UTC  

I don't believe a certain party should have ideological control over the majority of the people. It should based freely without much cultural biases and should allow maximum freedom to the individual it can provide.
@Deleted User No I haven't, but I will do thanks.

2019-08-05 18:18:23 UTC  

where is all this coming from

2019-08-05 18:19:19 UTC  

you do know national socialist Germany practiced positive Christianity and freedom of religion as if the religion was not parasitical to the nation.

2019-08-05 18:20:08 UTC  

Yes, I know but do you also know about Wagnerian roots and Paganism practiced as well at the time?

2019-08-05 18:20:34 UTC  

The Aryan Race and all that stuff wasn't all Christianity you know?

2019-08-05 18:20:48 UTC  

i know this

2019-08-05 18:21:42 UTC  

@Prometheus what is freedom to you?

2019-08-05 18:21:45 UTC  

paganism is quite national socialistic in some regards depending on what kind of paganism we're speaking of