Message from @Prometheus

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2019-08-06 18:46:11 UTC  

I thought you were the one that liked that shit

2019-08-06 18:49:42 UTC  

@Deleted User When did Fascism become freedom? Have you all gone mad. Fascism isn't empowering, it's a ruthless ideology. Moderate form of Nationalism would still make sense. But Fascism is antithetical to Freedom and American values. Wake up, would you.

2019-08-06 18:50:16 UTC  

Oh god oh fuck

2019-08-06 18:50:23 UTC  

Libtertarian get down

2019-08-06 18:50:34 UTC  

This is not a conflict you want to start with the fascista

2019-08-06 18:50:43 UTC  

Listen

2019-08-06 18:50:55 UTC  

Fascism is more complicated then these liberal fascists make it seem to be

2019-08-06 18:51:07 UTC  

They are just the shitposters who do it to be edgy

2019-08-06 18:51:16 UTC  

Fascism isn’t about freedom and never was

2019-08-06 18:51:29 UTC  

Correction, it is but only for the main race

2019-08-06 18:51:37 UTC  

fascism is gay

2019-08-06 18:51:45 UTC  

fascism is for dum dum poopies

2019-08-06 18:53:15 UTC  

if you want the conclusion of fascism just watch Solo/120 days of Sodomy

2019-08-06 18:53:57 UTC  

@Prometheus American values has brought nothing but more eternal war to the system that it claims to be against

2019-08-06 18:54:01 UTC  

it will always bring war

2019-08-06 18:54:05 UTC  

there is no question about it

2019-08-06 18:54:17 UTC  

its designed to keep people always in a trance for generations

2019-08-06 19:00:42 UTC  

@Cúchulainn I understand what your getting at about the song. I agree in a sense that we have different values and beliefs. Fight over real stuff like resources and some people are more moral than others.
But what I really wanted to point out, was that fundamentally we are the same living consciousness experiencing life together. We could do so much better, if we took the route of peace and understanding, rather than war and destruction.
In the issue of free will. Look what the mess we have made. Instead of taking responsibility on our actions, we fight each other for petty ideals and temporary material resources. Which won't help us anyway in the end, and then will die. Why not do something better with the time we have on this planet. That's what I wanted to point out, in a way. Even though I know it's impossible. But hope for a great ideal to aspire to something like that. To make us understand one another much better.
When we we gained intelligence. We haven't been much responsible seeing the track record of what we have done.

2019-08-06 19:01:13 UTC  

@Ned Kelly You are right there. I don't disagree with that.

2019-08-06 19:04:12 UTC  

But it's better to aspire for something than not. The people who break ideals are lowly anyway. It' doesn't what you teach them. They still end up doing evil. It doesn't matter which religion, ideology or creed you may be from.
Good and bad exist and whatever code or system you create. There will obviously people who conform or just disobey or even be irrational and intentionally cause evil. Because it's unfortunately in the make of the human beings.

2019-08-06 19:04:46 UTC  

You can't rectify man as you just take away the part of volition.

2019-08-06 19:05:17 UTC  

Experience teaches. Proper thought guides to right action.

2019-08-06 19:06:01 UTC  

But what is right and wrong may differ people to people and similarly with experience.

2019-08-06 19:06:51 UTC  

It's so difficult to pin down the complete rightness and wrongness of an action. Because many of them are dependent on each other.

2019-08-06 19:07:07 UTC  

Not to mention so many different moral codes we have.

2019-08-06 19:07:25 UTC  

The road peace is very difficult on our own.

2019-08-06 19:09:30 UTC  

I only think a real Technocratic Dictatorship in the future would resolve our problems and disputes. But I think freedom would have to go.
I just get the feeling the world might tilt that way. I think the ruling elite want a society like that.

2019-08-06 19:09:37 UTC  

That's my hunch.

2019-08-06 19:10:19 UTC  

I'm still not sure whether it will tilt more right or left. But I think it will be some kind of mixture.

2019-08-06 19:11:01 UTC  

Whatever these are my ramblings if anyone's interested.

2019-08-06 19:19:45 UTC  

Dictatorship is not the answer

2019-08-06 19:19:54 UTC  

Everything must burn

2019-08-06 19:20:09 UTC  

Its the only way we will advance from this point as humanity

2019-08-06 19:22:19 UTC  

Good and bad are concepts we create to give ourselves an eternal enemy that the blood god demands

2019-08-06 19:24:11 UTC  

The values of Fascism are so wild are ever changing that it is only a matter of time before they gain literal political holds on mankind

2019-08-06 19:25:15 UTC  

I don't want that answer myself. I just think the ruling elite wants that. Let's see what will happen.

2019-08-06 19:25:26 UTC  

Capitalism has failed us

2019-08-06 19:25:31 UTC  

its time to put it down

2019-08-06 19:25:41 UTC  

Capitalism is what is keeping us from slaughtering the bastards

2019-08-06 19:26:03 UTC  

Our lust for money has over taken any desire for reform or change of the status quo

2019-08-06 19:30:38 UTC  

It hasn't in my opinion. It has both desirable and undesirable parts.
Yes the lust of money is certainly the most disgusting part of Capitalism. Reducing everything into a monetary value.
I agree with you there. But it also allowed us to have more relative freedom than in the past and a kind of intellectual freedom we didn't have before.
It's also made people self sufficient to an extent. Buy yeah I agree not in a good way. That's for sure.
I have a pretty mixed answer on all this. So I can't give you a proper reply here. Sorry