Message from @Ned Kelly

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2019-08-06 20:13:25 UTC  

But do you think people will have the same incentive to help. Without the profit motive. I don't think people want to help each other out of goodwill.
I find difficult to believe. that people care for each other naturally. Unless your're only seeing one side of the coin.
Most care about themselves and for their own ends. Unless you aren't part of theirs they don't care about you.
At least that's what I have experienced being around most people.
I hope you know people with better sense of values than this.

2019-08-06 20:14:45 UTC  

That is why we must get rid of the system that was before, the profit motivation is difficult to keep once there is no currency...not encouraging self egoism just to save a couple of people is a very wack situation to be in

2019-08-06 20:15:03 UTC  

we must destroy it before it becomes more and more oppressive by the day

2019-08-06 20:17:13 UTC  

Alright, I'll believe you. Let's see what the opposition ends up with. I hope a more benign system than this one. There is too much apathy in this world already.

2019-08-06 20:18:13 UTC  

Wish you guys come up with up a better solution. Then messing it up even further. I hope.

2019-08-06 20:18:35 UTC  

if the solution is not enough

2019-08-06 20:18:37 UTC  

you keep trying

2019-08-06 20:21:02 UTC  

I understand your motivation. But I am more like that donkey in Animal Farm by George Orwell.
No matter what you do. You still always end up with same formula. The freedom fighters eventually become oppressors.
History has already shown us countless times when this has happened.

2019-08-06 20:21:29 UTC  

Why keep capitalism then?

2019-08-06 20:21:29 UTC  

I just so tired of being fooled.

2019-08-06 20:21:41 UTC  

We all fight for something we barely understand

2019-08-06 20:21:49 UTC  

Because it least gives me a sense of control.

2019-08-06 20:22:09 UTC  

Even though it's pretty illusory.

2019-08-06 20:25:32 UTC  

I wanted better way for this world. I was inspired by Howard Roark from The Fountainhead and made a bet on Capitalism. More under views of Ayn Rand.
And sure I have seen the hypocrisy. Alan Greenspan, the federal reserve.
But at least Objectivism gave me systematic view to approach reality. Much better than what I was offered before.
I don't agree everything about Objectivism or Capitalism. But share some ideals which I think are fundamental to a free society and a free life.

2019-08-06 20:27:55 UTC  

Here's Ayn Rand views on individual rights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqItG3suqok

2019-08-06 20:40:22 UTC  

Though Laisse faire Capitalism may seem extreme. It's only under the modal a Free Market system. Which never came fully to existence. The same way you can say real Communism wasn't applied.
Plus, it's a complicated subject altogether so I'll refrain to speak too much about right it now.

2019-08-06 20:41:53 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583448865881980929/608399370852892675/not.png

2019-08-06 20:46:32 UTC  

a illusionary sense of control is no control at all

2019-08-06 20:46:38 UTC  

everything is crashing and dying

2019-08-06 20:48:07 UTC  

Okay, whatever you say. I have got nothing to argue about.

2019-08-06 20:48:44 UTC  

lol

2019-08-06 20:49:31 UTC  
2019-08-06 20:49:45 UTC  

this glorious bastard goes into great detail about capitalism

2019-08-06 20:50:12 UTC  

he was the one that "started" the modern ancom movement

2019-08-06 20:50:32 UTC  

@Prometheus you're a retard

2019-08-06 20:50:50 UTC  

all you want is the freedom to be a degenerate

2019-08-06 20:50:56 UTC  

nothing more

2019-08-06 20:50:56 UTC  

edgy

2019-08-06 20:51:00 UTC  

this should be fun

2019-08-06 20:51:12 UTC  

what happens when a fascist, an ancom, and a capitalist walk into a room

2019-08-06 20:51:17 UTC  

who kills who first

2019-08-06 20:51:21 UTC  

time will tell

2019-08-06 20:51:45 UTC  

I have heard a few critics myself from anarchists and even Mikhail Bakunin.

2019-08-06 20:52:21 UTC  

the fascist will hopefully kill the two materialist fucks

2019-08-06 20:52:26 UTC  

with what

2019-08-06 20:52:32 UTC  

your shitposting?

2019-08-06 20:52:33 UTC  

ahahaha

2019-08-06 20:52:48 UTC  

lool

2019-08-06 20:52:52 UTC  

yea okay

2019-08-06 20:52:55 UTC  

mhm