Message from @Kyger

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2019-10-26 23:25:37 UTC  

Productivity is still breaking records

2019-10-26 23:26:05 UTC  

We'd have over 250,000 a year in wages

2019-10-26 23:26:23 UTC  

If you raise the minimum wage like that what do you think is the most likely response from companies

2019-10-26 23:26:43 UTC  

cutting into profits, firing to make up for the costs or raising prices to pay for it

2019-10-26 23:26:46 UTC  

Or we can actually force companies to not price gauge

2019-10-26 23:32:24 UTC  

Companies might, because you see the money we make, is sort of the money we get out of the profit made by the company, we work for. The money that is generated is distributed among the employees, and that is what we gain to buy stuff in return. The economy itself facilitates it.
But when you get the government involved, you still have to make money, and the prices have to be higher due lack of money you earn through producing.
The actual value is reduced from minimum wage.
That's why many business people, recommend getting even a low paying job, compared to the minimum wage.
I don't even know if the minimum wage is enough to lift you up to get a better job, even that's pretty disputable.
Also kills incentive for work, that's another issue.
So that's many people from the other side discourage it.

2019-10-26 23:33:33 UTC  

Imagine caring about government, when you should just care about getting a line of traps and femboys to anal

2019-10-26 23:34:13 UTC  

Nah I'm just saying, I know system is broken to support the 1 %

2019-10-26 23:34:23 UTC  

It's pointless

2019-10-26 23:34:32 UTC  

nothing we can do to stop them

2019-10-26 23:34:43 UTC  

That's a simplified look at it but it is a touchy topic

2019-10-26 23:34:48 UTC  

yea

2019-10-26 23:34:52 UTC  

Those on top do earn more

2019-10-26 23:35:03 UTC  

But you need to consider they are the one purchasing assets to make the business go round

2019-10-26 23:35:06 UTC  

Taking the risk

2019-10-26 23:35:09 UTC  

If it kills incentive to work how until the 70s (Reaganomics) wages kept up with productivity and productivity kept rising

2019-10-26 23:35:12 UTC  

And is still rising

2019-10-26 23:35:16 UTC  

As a minimum wage employee you really take on no risk

2019-10-26 23:35:36 UTC  

@Kyger I agree with that, but just look at the stock market and you puke

2019-10-26 23:35:51 UTC  

Money is like a gamble

2019-10-26 23:35:53 UTC  

It's just determining how much more they should be making I guess

2019-10-26 23:36:05 UTC  

Those who have it gain more from it

2019-10-26 23:36:18 UTC  

But I know my family still can't pay for bills and everything even though they're technically above minimum wage

2019-10-26 23:36:21 UTC  

Those who don't just suffer the consequences

2019-10-26 23:37:28 UTC  

If you get lucky or fortune goes your way and you get an unique product or service. You might be ones on your way to some good level of control. Otherwise it's pointless

2019-10-26 23:37:38 UTC  

Also don't forget links

2019-10-26 23:37:44 UTC  

Governmental

2019-10-26 23:37:59 UTC  

It's an ideology based on consumption and money

2019-10-26 23:38:01 UTC  

As well as the rich travel together

2019-10-26 23:38:32 UTC  

Capitalism will always lead to something like this, especially if you just leave it unregulated

2019-10-26 23:38:38 UTC  

Nobody want to give a bigger slice of the pie

2019-10-26 23:38:43 UTC  

It's a war

2019-10-26 23:38:54 UTC  

Also not a free market

2019-10-26 23:39:03 UTC  

so it's all corrupt anyway

2019-10-26 23:39:04 UTC  

I honestly can't think capitalism will ever be sustainable

2019-10-26 23:39:46 UTC  

But you don't have any realistic alternative either. Than the mixed economy, which is a hell already

2019-10-26 23:40:58 UTC  

I honestly believe that humans should've been developed to this extent

2019-10-26 23:41:31 UTC  

Sure shared that sentiment once, but don't know anymore myself.

2019-10-26 23:41:34 UTC  

Shouldn't've*

2019-10-26 23:41:58 UTC  

But honestly I don't think we can go back to anything less

2019-10-26 23:42:31 UTC  

It's good, maybe if we get UBI, it won't be so bad.