I don't know of any other system that regulates the economy as good as capitalism and retain a certain amount of functional order.
Also we have been better off with it than other systems. So my support still remains.

Also The State only has few function under a true free market

You don't have to fear the things you are seeing today

Believe you are sending me hypotheticals and the same on my area.

I don't we have demonstrated how we will get a proper society where we will not have unwanted things we have today.

@Cúchulainn Moralist Grandpa lol
I don't particularily limit myself to one mode of thought.
My support for capitalism a strong support of private property which you guy's think is force and oppression.
I do not agree with the anarchists and communists here.
Otherwise I share all the values, at I can say mostly.
Now for the morality part, tell if there is no moral society would really want to live in it.

Also you deny human nature? What basis do you have for your claim.

There is no evidence for human nature

I must say you live in cave or something

It is nonsense

Hah

There is

Nonsense invented and imposed by the ruling class to preserve the status quo

It's quite observable

How do you presume they control you so well if you didn't have a nature?

To hell with these countless bloody anecdotes. All is the same when viewed through the proper lense, and your capitalist culture is your lens.

no you are trying to put me in a certain bracket

In what world do I require a static set of inherent behaviour in order to observe that I am being controlled?

You are already in a certain bracket.

Alright, then would you say the same for yourself.
How will I gain your kind of enlightenment then?

Can it be taught

or is innate

?

I have no enlightenment.

It can partially be taught, partially observed.

What I've learned I learned through struggle, and through paying a lot of attention for a very long time.

And for all I have done and said, it comes to less than a fraction of what some others have done and said.

Okay, I agree with what you may be pointing, but those others observations, but do they clearly represent an opposition do they or not?

My observations clearly represent an opposition to the sense of human nature.

I am similar in account only that I do not believe that human beings have a innate nature.
But do believe we share, certain characteristics that are definite to sense and not at the same.
I believe we are strongly socialized and there is a part nature too. But we don't know how much the tilt is on and on which side.
The old nature and nurture argument.

How much are influenced by our nature and how much are we programed to act in a certain way.

I don't understand how much nature or nurture has an effect on us.
There a primary nature
After that we are so complex, when it comes to ideas thought are articulation that we go way beyond the basic nature of our instinct. Even though the primary structure might be intact, but we articulate things in almost a contrary fashion.

Also unpredictable and random

So it goes

Also I wanted to argue with you about rationality and intellectualism, you pointed out long ago.

I agree with you about intellectualism

But about rationality, it's a little complicated

I am no position to defend it

I don't know much yet

But I feel reason, is a sort of guide way or method. Not a particular world view.
It's not always accurate and may not be the same thing for many people.

WAIT before all this