But

The implication of all matter and time coming from a single point begs the question, "What caused reality?:

The particle in question was all things, both time and space.

It was everything, it had no reason to explode as it did

It essentially was inert since nothing could exist outside of it and thus, nothing else existed outside of it to act upon it.

Well we can’t say with any degree of accuracy until we are certain of the exact properties of whatever could have been outside of it. My problem with claiming an immaterial creator was this first cause is that the immaterial/unnatural can’t be defined.

Its only characteristic is that it lacks characteristics

and is contrary to everything we know

It is in contrast to everything we *currently* know *empirically*.

If we are capable of analyzing it then it is material. Observation is how we acquire knowledge

I fully support scientists and the pursuit of understanding the universe, I just see the current scientific understanding of the universe much like the medical understanding of Humorism.

It's wrong, but ideas from the incorrect assumption could lead to better advancements.

We just don't have the tools required to observe a God empirically yet.

The lack of proof is not proof of lack of existence.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence*

Yes, but the default assumption is that a theory is incorrect. I’m also not willing to wait around for proof that I doubt will ever come

and again, how do you expect to prove the existence of an immaterial being when we can only observe the material. We can see things because light essentially bounces off of things and back into our eyes

Yes, but for a time we couldn't see air either, yet we still felt the wind.

Exactly, we observed its effects and went from there. If the “immaterial” can affect the material, it is necessarily able to do so because it exists as a physical entity subject to the laws of physics

thus making it material

but I’m a bit bored of this so I’ll end off by saying that agnostic atheism is the most reasonable position with our current info

I've got shit to do myself l8r.

good talk 😁

@☭ Anon ☭ Why are you a communist?

because I’m jewish property and I want to please jews obviously

Oh.

why are you a liberal

lol

Because I believe in freedom and equality of opportunity and people’s right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness

should we keep bombing brown people and colonizing their lands like we are doing now

No one is being colonized

Colonialism ended like 100 years ago

Ok here’s a question, why wouldn’t we switch to central planning when markets have proven inefficient at distribution? Billions of pounds of food goes to waste every year sitting on the shelves of supermarkets while millions starve to death

oh no its shuka

Capitalism may be trash

but can y'all give some alternatives then

Central planning isn’t needed to get food to people

Socialism @.suki

There wasn’t central planning before and yet famines are still rare

@☭ Anon ☭ because histroically that's worked well, yeah?

basically everybody here believes in some kind of alternative be it fascism communism anarchism or national socialism