Capitalism + care for the elderly, child care, education, health care and workers' compensation, that's what I support

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Social Democracy doesn't go far enough

Basically a bandaid over a gunshot wound

How so? What's missing?

You have to deal with increasing automation which drives value down over time until profit is unsustainable

Also the master slave dialectic that still exists

You are taking a hypothesis which have actually been played out several times through history, in a good way

Destroy Automated machines, Luddite gang

I'll take the german ruhr area as my example of choice

99% automation is unsustainable under capitalism

So the system will dissolve and production will be for need instead of profit, and life will go forwards

What are you on about? Where do you get 99% automation from?

I'm on about the fact that to make production cheaper capitalism automates it, and eventually automation will take over most jobs

That's not a bad thing either

Ok NEET

Well bad for the people out of jobs until UBI kicks in

Are you talking about ALL jobs? Like how do you want to automate everything and why would people ever agree with that

There are several things that can only be done by humans

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Automation will take up the entire market if we aren't careful

The people do not agree with it, but it is increasingly being done

Just let it happen

Can u give a example where deindustrialisation is not the solution

For these increasingly automated jobs

Why would we deindustrialize

I'd rather not become a NEET

Thats moving back, not forward

Being unemployed isn't progress lmao

You're literally creating an artificial slave class

I'm not talking about destroying factories, i'm talking about shifting the work done by people from the second to the tertiary sector

The service industries

Doesn't matter in a society where jobs are automated and you get what you need and are free to pursue your own goals @Deleted User

LITERALLY a artificial slave class

How do you know everyone has the same goals??

Wdym

Sooner or later they're going to develop a conscience and suddenly they'll want muh rights

There is no class since you would not have relation to the means of production

What if my goal is to pursue being powerful, or that I want to own more then others

Then you participate in sports or something, at that point the state apparatus is already obsolete