Message from @Samm

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2019-06-30 22:30:21 UTC  

talking about 1965

2019-06-30 22:31:15 UTC  

and i can tell you that i personally wouldn't want to work for 2.7 EUR

2019-06-30 22:31:30 UTC  

while maintaining a household

2019-06-30 22:31:54 UTC  

and take a look at the countries of the Soviet Union in the 21st century

2019-06-30 22:32:01 UTC  

Bulgaria, Romania, Albania etc

2019-06-30 22:32:07 UTC  

do u think that they have developed

2019-06-30 22:32:18 UTC  

since i asked you about the development of a country

2019-06-30 22:32:41 UTC  

has eastern germany developed in contrast with the western counterpart

2019-06-30 22:32:42 UTC  

?

2019-06-30 22:35:45 UTC  

They had access to the things they needed. Money in the USSR functioned more as an accounting mechanism than the circulating currency of capitalism. Skimming through the document, it seems the author is putting an emphasis on their access to consumer goods, this is insignificant when discussing if the Soviet people were able to live comfortably. On East Germany, the region was poor from the start. It’s a bit surprising they were able to maintain the conditions that they did

2019-06-30 22:36:22 UTC  

what about the other countries?

2019-06-30 22:36:25 UTC  

have they developed

2019-06-30 22:36:44 UTC  

Hey I’m gonna go try to teach myself calc so I can’t stay rn, but I’ll give you a video or two that may help with getting my point across

2019-06-30 22:36:45 UTC  

as the Netherlands or Italy, who have been in the Western Block?

2019-06-30 22:36:59 UTC  

Sound good?

2019-06-30 22:37:07 UTC  

well, we aer talking about the development of a country

2019-06-30 22:37:24 UTC  

if u can find me a vid that can show me the development of every state

2019-06-30 22:37:31 UTC  

that were under soviet ruling

2019-06-30 22:37:40 UTC  

i'd be rlly appreaciative of that

2019-06-30 22:40:35 UTC  

Alright, as a closing statement I’ll say that socialism produced better conditions than capitalist countries at similar levels of development. The fact that any of them were comparable to capitalism in a short amount of time considering the mass poverty then majority of them were in before their socialist revolutions. That said, I’ll link you a playlist and a server full of docs

2019-06-30 22:44:36 UTC  

Socialists are the big dumb

2019-06-30 22:45:12 UTC  

>libertarianism
>capitalism

2019-06-30 22:45:16 UTC  

Are taxes theft

2019-06-30 22:59:24 UTC  

More like nazis don’t know the origins of socialism so they go with the definitions of small brained economists and low quality dictators

2019-06-30 23:00:27 UTC  

thats not how philosophy works lol

2019-06-30 23:00:46 UTC  

there are definitions that are proprietary to particular disciplines @☭ Anon ☭

2019-06-30 23:01:30 UTC  

no specific type of socialists have hegemony over the word

2019-06-30 23:02:53 UTC  

That doesn’t mean conflicting definitions can be correct. Socialism has its origins in the writings of utopian socialists, not whatever bullshit nazis are putting forth. They are socialist only to themselves

2019-06-30 23:03:03 UTC  

I’ll get back to this later nig

2019-06-30 23:03:27 UTC  

point is there is no "correct" definition if the standard its being evaluated in light of isnt determined already

2019-06-30 23:04:12 UTC  

marxists and spenglarians obviously use socialism differently. im interested to hear what considerations there are that would oblige me to think one is more legitimate than the other in and of themselves

2019-06-30 23:05:17 UTC  

@Łukasz lol no

2019-06-30 23:05:32 UTC  

@Blueroad dm me if you’d like to continue later

2019-06-30 23:05:44 UTC  

im trying not to procrastinate rn rip

2019-06-30 23:05:57 UTC  

ill have to add you if thats ok i have dms for non friends disabled

2019-06-30 23:06:03 UTC  

That’s fine

2019-06-30 23:06:42 UTC  

I made it a goal of mine to learn calculus this summer because I have an interest in physics

2019-06-30 23:07:08 UTC  

@Łukasz do you think any of that is a useful contribution lol

2019-06-30 23:07:43 UTC  

any prospect of a meaningful conversation

2019-06-30 23:10:15 UTC  

what are you doing for national socialism?

2019-06-30 23:10:43 UTC  

when are you going to start killing the movementarians, siegelets, pedophiles, etc that plague the movement?