lol

appreciate them...

toot

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Apologies from before

I did not see the arguments clearly from before and missed a few myself.

I was wrong completely

I reacted stupidly

I agree with you completely.
Sorry for my stupidity
@Korewa Krusader

I didn't listen to you properly

couples argument?

I don't usually, do this. I was a little sleepy at the time.

@fumez nah just wanted to clarify, my own falsity.
I don't argue with people, just for the sake of arguing but for ideas.
I reacted horribly, I didn't see all the stuff Korewa was saying. So my mistake
I felt a little responsible, so I wanted to apologize.
I have a heavy conscience, that bothers me a lot, so I had to do it.

to fight wrongly is not my way

so

that's why

Korewa's earlier position, was not what he had taken after. It was my fault for misunderstanding.

Korea is gay.

haha

I was sleeping.

@Prometheus You read the Richard Lynn, didn't you?

oh like a rainbow

No, I read the conversation we had.
Though saying that I agree with you completely was an overstatement.
I did disagree with the eugenics part
But I fought with you horribly, I skipped a whole part of what you were saying, which we were both on a consensus.
Dragged the conversation where it shouldn't which I admit was my fault.
I can look into the stuff, you have given me and slowly will come to a conclusion.

there was some counter info I posted, which I deleted now because I thought it was unneeded as I assumed you more of an opponent instead of listening to you clearly.
@Korewa Krusader

holy shit he's still apologising for this shit

There was some stuff from Bertrand Russel I agreed with I'll send it again and let you be the judge of what you think of it.
I do consider it to be true for now, until proven wrong.

I'll paste it now, just a moment

The fallacies about "race" and "blood," which have always been popular, and which the Nazis have embodied in their official creed, have no objective Justification; they are believed solely because they minister to self-esteem and to the impulse toward cruelty. In one form or another, these beliefs are as old as civilization; their forms change, but their essence remains. Herodotus tells how Cyrus was brought up by peasants, in complete ignorance of his royal blood; at the age of twelve his kingly bearing toward other peasant boys revealed the truth. This is a variant of an old story which is found in all Indo-European countries. Even quite modem people say that "blood will tell." It is no use for scientific physiologists to assure the world that there is no difference between the blood of a Negro and the blood of a white man. The American Red Cross, in obedience to popular prejudice, at first, when America became involved in the present war, decreed that no Negro blood should be used for blood transfusion. As a result of an agitation, it was conceded that Negro blood might be used, but only for Negro patients. Similarly, in Germany, the Aryan soldier who needs blood transfusion is carefully protected from the contamination of Jewish blood.

In the matter of race, there are different beliefs in different societies. Where monarchy is firmly established, kings are of a higher race than their subjects. Until very recently, it was universally believed that men are congenitally more intelligent than women; even so enlightened a man as Spinoza decides against votes for women on this ground. Among white men, it is held that white men are by nature superior to men of other colors, and especially to black men; in Japan, on the contrary, it is thought that yellow is the best color. In Haiti, when they make statues of Christ and Satan, they make Christ black and Satan white. Aristotle and Plato considered Greeks so innately superior to barbarians that slavery is justified so long as the master is Greek and the slave barbarian. The Nazis and the American legislators who made the immigration laws consider the Nordics superior to Slavs or Latins or any other white men. But the Nazis, under the stress of war, have been led to the conclusion that there are hardly any true Nordics outside Germany; the Norwegians, except Quisling and his few followers, have been corrupted by intermixture with Finns and Laps and such. Thus politics are a clue to descent. The biologically pure Nordic loves Hitler, and if you do not love Hitler, that is proof of tainted blood.

All this is, of course, pure nonsense, known to be such by every-one who has studied the subject. In schools in America, children of the most diverse origins are subjected to the same educational system, and those whose business it is to measure intelligence quotients and otherwise estimate the native ability of students are unable to make any such racial distinctions as are postulated by the theorists of race. In every national or racial group there are clever children and stupid children. It is not likely that, in the United States, colored children will develop as successfully as white children, because of the stigma of social inferiority; but in so far as congenital ability can be detached from environmental influence, there is no clear distinction among different groups. The whole conception of superior races is merely a myth generated by the overweening self-esteem of the holders of power. It may be that, some day, better evidence will be forthcoming; perhaps, in time, educators will be able to prove (say) that Jews are on the average more intelligent than gentiles. But as yet no such evidence exists, and all talk of superior races must be dismissed as nonsense.

There is a special absurdity in applying racial theories to the various populations of Europe. There is not in Europe any such thing as a pure race. Russians have an admixture of Tartar blood, Germans are largely Slavonic, France is a mixture of Celts, Germans, and people of Mediterranean race, Italy the same with the addition of the descendants of slaves imported by the Romans. The English are perhaps the most mixed of all. There is no evidence that there is any advantage in belonging to a pure race. The purest races now in existence are the Pygmies, the Hottentots, and the Australian aborigines; the Tasmanians, who were probably even purer, are extinct. They were not the bearers of a brilliant culture. The ancient Greeks, on the other hand, emerged from an amalgamation of northern barbarians and an indigenous population; the Athenians and Ionians, who were the most civilized, were also the most mixed. The supposed merits of racial purity are, it would seem, wholly imaginary.

Superstitions about blood have many forms that have nothing to do with race. The objection to homicide seems to have been, originally, based on the ritual pollution caused by the blood of the victim. God said to Cain: "The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground." According to some anthropologists, the mark of Cain was a disguise to prevent Abel's blood from finding him; this appears also to be the original reason for wearing mourning. In many ancient communities no difference was made between murder and accidental homicide; in either case equally ritual ablution was necessary. The feeling that blood defiles still lingers, for example in the Churching of Women and in taboos connected with menstruation. The idea that a child is of his father's "blood" has the same superstitious origin. So far as actual blood is concerned, the mother's enters into the child, but not the father's. If blood were as important as is supposed, matriarchy would be the only proper way of tracing descent.

In Russia, where, under the influence of Karl Marx, people since the revolution have been classified by their economic origin, difficulties have arisen not unlike those of German race theorists over the Scandinavian Nordies. There were two theories that had to be reconciled: on the one hand, proletarians were good and other people were bad; on the other hand, communists were good and other people were bad. The only way of effecting a reconciliation was to alter the meaning of words. A "proletarian" came to mean a supporter of the government; Lenin, though born a Prince, was reckoned a member of the proletariat. On the other hand, the word "kulak," which was supposed to mean a rich peasant, came to mean any peasant who opposed collectivization. This sort of absurdity always arises when one group of human beings is supposed to be inherently better than another. In America, the highest praise that can be bestowed on an eminent colored man after he is safely dead is to say "he was a white man." A courageous woman is called "masculine": Macbeth, praising his wife's courage, says:

Bring forth men children only, For thy undaunted mettle should compose Nothing but males.

I see walk of text

Adderall I require

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here is what I think is wrong and superstitious about blood, race and it's conflation to social relations.

I should have separated in paragraphs

Lol, the Nazis didn't believe in race.

They believed in Aryanism, not race. Race was for the allied powers.

But it was the Aryan Race

come on, you must read some occult too

No, Aryanism isn't a race.

like Blavatsky's root races Aryan Race was inspired from that.