Message from @tikoblocks
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Yes. Socialism/communism, could work if we were all perfect and the government wasn't corrupt, but we're humans so yeah.
Hurray for humanity
the community needs food, everybody chips in to help get that food in form of labor and resources of the community(they tend to forget that part til they experience it)
well there is no gov to overwatch the community ...because the community is the overwatch of itself
@Mr. John you tried
sad repost..what a shame
which is why this only works for small communities and communes ...not large cities, nations because it's not a trusted structure size to monitor everybody's support and actions of labor to help each other out
oddly enough, most isolated villages use this system and don't even know it ...because it's the best method to survive for the community as a whole, but not for any larger community where demand for resources out number the labor provided by the shared community(this is where power gets abused and other corruption seeps in)
i'm not saying there's no merit to this kind of system in certain cases, but why make such a big point of it
it's completely unable to be implemented on a societal scale
too many conflicting systems ..too high of a risk of corruption of the system
https://discord.com/channels/707691030748594288/801170172723462204/807816643459153970 as an asthmatic if i catch any of you breathing it's off to the gulag
not every system is ideal..but some are more ideal than most ppl realize depending on the population and resources available for that population
yes, assuming a complete societal upheaval, communes as a primary organizational system could work
but i'm not really sure what your point here is
it's best when used for the smallest community size...not the global scale of one
which these commie socialistic idiots keep pushing for
so your point is that the ideals of communism are wholly ill-equipped to deal with the needs of the modern world?
gotcha
well most of the 'needs' they push for are not ideal for true survival nor stable society structure as a whole
I feel like communism in small groups allows for survival, but can't allow for adequate progress and innovation.
pretty much
ironic then that marx intended it for an industrialized nation like 19th century france
progress only effective towards survival but not much for anything else, innovation only accepted if proven to improve everything and everybody
That's the thing, Conservatives believe that the single family is the corner stone of society. Marx believed that everyone is family, thus deleting family values
family vs community
Not a repost.
without family, u have no chance at community ..without community ..u just have a family
how does the saying go?
something like "with my family i'm a communist, with my friends a socialist, and with society a capitalist"?
😂
is that actually something they're trying to push or are we not there quite yet?
That's what makes it especially absurd when some socialists make the argument that socialism hasn't worked yet because it hasn't been implemented globally.
Btw you may be interested in this article. It argues that socialism relies on outdated hunter gatherer morality. https://mises.org/wire/socialists-claim-their-system-morally-superior-theyre-wrong
As far as I know, leftists aren't trying to push it yet. I made it up for jokes. But I could end up experiencing an "oh wait what's this" Mark Dice moment. We'll see lmao
Lmao yeah
hunter gatherer system on a global scale would be stealing from everybody else
Yeah because there was no agriculture so everything was a zero-sum game
That's what the socialists miss. Things aren't a zero-sum game anymore. Society has advanced.
also another insane concept of the left is being anti hetero and suggesting everybody be gay/trans ...which is genocidal on a society level...their excuse to get out of self genocide is to 'adopt' instead of breeding via hetero method...except in a pure non hetero society, nobody breeds therefore there is nobody to adopt
same goes for those pro abortion
they destroy the family unit, they destroy themselves ...without family..they don't exist in the long term