Message from @sciencemanethan

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2021-02-07 03:23:38 UTC  

i would probably have a greater chance of success too

2021-02-07 03:24:15 UTC  

Which is why right leaning people generally prefer capitalism. Personal accountability.

2021-02-07 03:24:56 UTC  

capitalism is more of an economic structure than a political system

2021-02-07 03:25:30 UTC  

yes but it's coupled with libertarianism / classical liberalism

2021-02-07 03:25:50 UTC  

Isn’t communism partly a political system and partly an economic structure?

2021-02-07 03:25:58 UTC  

it forces a universal item to be unit of currency between 2 or more incompatible goods traders

2021-02-07 03:26:17 UTC  

Theres also the push of the importance of personal property in the Bible that makes me even more tuned not to believe Jesus was a communist

2021-02-07 03:26:48 UTC  

He misses a ton of context

2021-02-07 03:28:04 UTC  

well the economic structure of communism only works effectively when everybody provides equal work in the fields that helps to grow the crops and equal work in the mines to get the ore to supply to the greater structure of the commune unity of construction society life and maintaining it

2021-02-07 03:29:21 UTC  

Yes. Socialism/communism, could work if we were all perfect and the government wasn't corrupt, but we're humans so yeah.

2021-02-07 03:29:39 UTC  

Hurray for humanity

2021-02-07 03:29:50 UTC  

the community needs food, everybody chips in to help get that food in form of labor and resources of the community(they tend to forget that part til they experience it)

2021-02-07 03:30:33 UTC  

well there is no gov to overwatch the community ...because the community is the overwatch of itself

2021-02-07 03:30:48 UTC  

@Mr. John you tried

2021-02-07 03:30:56 UTC  

sad repost..what a shame

2021-02-07 03:31:49 UTC  

which is why this only works for small communities and communes ...not large cities, nations because it's not a trusted structure size to monitor everybody's support and actions of labor to help each other out

2021-02-07 03:34:04 UTC  

oddly enough, most isolated villages use this system and don't even know it ...because it's the best method to survive for the community as a whole, but not for any larger community where demand for resources out number the labor provided by the shared community(this is where power gets abused and other corruption seeps in)

2021-02-07 03:34:46 UTC  

i'm not saying there's no merit to this kind of system in certain cases, but why make such a big point of it

2021-02-07 03:35:01 UTC  

it's completely unable to be implemented on a societal scale

2021-02-07 03:35:32 UTC  

too many conflicting systems ..too high of a risk of corruption of the system

2021-02-07 03:35:57 UTC  

https://discord.com/channels/707691030748594288/801170172723462204/807816643459153970 as an asthmatic if i catch any of you breathing it's off to the gulag

2021-02-07 03:36:36 UTC  

not every system is ideal..but some are more ideal than most ppl realize depending on the population and resources available for that population

2021-02-07 03:37:52 UTC  

yes, assuming a complete societal upheaval, communes as a primary organizational system could work

2021-02-07 03:37:59 UTC  

but i'm not really sure what your point here is

2021-02-07 03:39:16 UTC  

it's best when used for the smallest community size...not the global scale of one

2021-02-07 03:39:40 UTC  

which these commie socialistic idiots keep pushing for

2021-02-07 03:40:25 UTC  

so your point is that the ideals of communism are wholly ill-equipped to deal with the needs of the modern world?

2021-02-07 03:40:31 UTC  

gotcha

2021-02-07 03:41:28 UTC  

well most of the 'needs' they push for are not ideal for true survival nor stable society structure as a whole

2021-02-07 03:43:09 UTC  

I feel like communism in small groups allows for survival, but can't allow for adequate progress and innovation.

2021-02-07 03:43:36 UTC  

pretty much

2021-02-07 03:44:06 UTC  

ironic then that marx intended it for an industrialized nation like 19th century france

2021-02-07 03:44:32 UTC  

progress only effective towards survival but not much for anything else, innovation only accepted if proven to improve everything and everybody

2021-02-07 03:45:08 UTC  

That's the thing, Conservatives believe that the single family is the corner stone of society. Marx believed that everyone is family, thus deleting family values

2021-02-07 03:45:33 UTC  

family vs community

2021-02-07 03:45:51 UTC  

Not a repost.

2021-02-07 03:46:03 UTC  

without family, u have no chance at community ..without community ..u just have a family

2021-02-07 03:47:21 UTC  

how does the saying go?

2021-02-07 03:47:48 UTC  

something like "with my family i'm a communist, with my friends a socialist, and with society a capitalist"?

2021-02-07 03:54:20 UTC  

😂

2021-02-07 03:55:29 UTC  

is that actually something they're trying to push or are we not there quite yet?