Message from @Dank_Furry_Pirate
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Right
really the main problem with communism is the inability of one person (or a group of people) to adequately manage an entire economy
a la venezuela
the problem you mentioned is perhaps the reason why people turn to communism but it's nto quite the reason why it fails
basically a farming community is better fit to do a true commune system, than any major city nor any nation regardless of size
yes if you had a small commune you could probably get it to work
u try getting a lefty to work
i would rather try to teach an ant to speak english
i would probably have a greater chance of success too
Which is why right leaning people generally prefer capitalism. Personal accountability.
capitalism is more of an economic structure than a political system
yes but it's coupled with libertarianism / classical liberalism
Isn’t communism partly a political system and partly an economic structure?
it forces a universal item to be unit of currency between 2 or more incompatible goods traders
Theres also the push of the importance of personal property in the Bible that makes me even more tuned not to believe Jesus was a communist
He misses a ton of context
well the economic structure of communism only works effectively when everybody provides equal work in the fields that helps to grow the crops and equal work in the mines to get the ore to supply to the greater structure of the commune unity of construction society life and maintaining it
Yes. Socialism/communism, could work if we were all perfect and the government wasn't corrupt, but we're humans so yeah.
Hurray for humanity
the community needs food, everybody chips in to help get that food in form of labor and resources of the community(they tend to forget that part til they experience it)
@Mr. John you tried
sad repost..what a shame
which is why this only works for small communities and communes ...not large cities, nations because it's not a trusted structure size to monitor everybody's support and actions of labor to help each other out
oddly enough, most isolated villages use this system and don't even know it ...because it's the best method to survive for the community as a whole, but not for any larger community where demand for resources out number the labor provided by the shared community(this is where power gets abused and other corruption seeps in)
i'm not saying there's no merit to this kind of system in certain cases, but why make such a big point of it
it's completely unable to be implemented on a societal scale
too many conflicting systems ..too high of a risk of corruption of the system
https://discord.com/channels/707691030748594288/801170172723462204/807816643459153970 as an asthmatic if i catch any of you breathing it's off to the gulag
not every system is ideal..but some are more ideal than most ppl realize depending on the population and resources available for that population
yes, assuming a complete societal upheaval, communes as a primary organizational system could work
but i'm not really sure what your point here is
it's best when used for the smallest community size...not the global scale of one
which these commie socialistic idiots keep pushing for
so your point is that the ideals of communism are wholly ill-equipped to deal with the needs of the modern world?
gotcha
well most of the 'needs' they push for are not ideal for true survival nor stable society structure as a whole
I feel like communism in small groups allows for survival, but can't allow for adequate progress and innovation.
pretty much
ironic then that marx intended it for an industrialized nation like 19th century france
progress only effective towards survival but not much for anything else, innovation only accepted if proven to improve everything and everybody