Message from @Kreia's Disciple

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2021-02-18 03:36:13 UTC  

No, it does not "require" fuedalism, fuedalism was the first iteration of attempting 100% meritocracy.

2021-02-18 03:37:00 UTC  

Just because you attempt something, doesn't mean it works!

2021-02-18 03:37:47 UTC  

@isoboto Is there an easy way to see memes I've already posted? Scrolling up on mobile doesn't work very well.

2021-02-18 03:37:53 UTC  

> We learned eventually that, as much as we *wish* things to be run from a 100% meritocratic point of view, it actually makes a whole lot of suffering. People would become indentured servants with no way of upward mobility, which would lead to resentment and revolutions.
You also said this right after mentioning monarchy/feudalism. There's putting words in someone's mouth, and then there's not communicating effectively.

2021-02-18 03:39:20 UTC  

Go to the search bar then type `from:Madman42#5070`, and follow it up with every channel you want to check so `in:#🤡|political-memes`, `in:#⏳|history-memes`, and so on.

2021-02-18 03:39:27 UTC  

Well, excuse me if I'm not communicating at 100% effectiveness. You just accused me of Biological essentialism and said that I thought all women deserve to be locked up in the Kitchen!

2021-02-18 03:39:59 UTC  

yes. use the search filter. choose the "from:" option and put your username in. it will give you a history of what you've posted

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801170164203913216/811804179361824808/unknown.png

2021-02-18 03:40:54 UTC  

That happened because you said something that could easily be misinterpreted that way....

2021-02-18 03:41:06 UTC  

Excellent! Thanks for the info.

2021-02-18 03:41:42 UTC  

Why did your mind make that leap?

2021-02-18 03:42:10 UTC  

This, remember?

2021-02-18 03:42:24 UTC  

How did it "Sound like that"?

2021-02-18 03:43:32 UTC  

It's something that is commonly said by people arguing that women shouldn't be able to vote/run for office

2021-02-18 03:43:50 UTC  

And have I ever argued for that?

2021-02-18 03:45:25 UTC  

You clarified and said you didn't believe that. I have no reason to doubt that claim. I'm just saying you shouldn't get mad at someone if something you said could be misinterpreted a certain way.

2021-02-18 03:45:53 UTC  

Ok.

2021-02-18 03:46:34 UTC  

So, I stated a thing. You leapt to a conclusion, and it's my fault that your mind made that leap because somewhere in the world, scumbags exist. That's your argument?

2021-02-18 03:49:48 UTC  

Like, I understand that I wasn't 100% clear, but let's be honest, text chat aint the best way to communicate deep ideas either.

2021-02-18 03:51:00 UTC  

I'm not saying it's your fault, just that communicating more precisely would help you avoid these situations. What I am saying is what I said in this message above I am replying to.

2021-02-18 03:52:07 UTC  

Look, I do not divide the world's systems into "Socialist" or "Not socialist" because it's not helpful.

2021-02-18 03:53:27 UTC  

When people are earnestly trying to communicate ideas and philosophies, just saying "That's socialism" and walking away doesn't change their minds about anything. Not in the history of ever.

2021-02-18 03:53:53 UTC  

You take what they're trying to achieve and you explain to them why it will not work out the way they expect.

2021-02-18 03:54:59 UTC  

I agree with that, but socialists often say capitalism is feudalistic, so in certain contexts, my argument would be called for.

2021-02-18 03:55:23 UTC  

If you were arguing with a socialist, maybe. But are you arguing with a socialist now?

2021-02-18 03:56:09 UTC  

@Sith_Emperor might i suggest u put the military memes in it's own section, not in misc area

2021-02-18 03:56:16 UTC  

No, but it seemed relevant, so that's why I brought it up

2021-02-18 03:57:18 UTC  

Alright, lets say you were arguing with a monarchist, and he believed monarchy would work, do you just call it socialism and walk away?

2021-02-18 03:58:09 UTC  

No. I'd give my reasons for why I don't like monarchy. But if the monarchist tried to say something like "you're a capitalist so you should like monarchy" then I may bring it up.

2021-02-18 03:58:13 UTC  

Marriage is the #1 cause of divorce

2021-02-18 03:58:31 UTC  

@Surgeon General Shirō Ishii Hey, i saw your video about fat people in <#801170165239906345> I just wanted to tell you that it is 54 seconds, (24 seconds over the limit), I suggest you take it down before you get a warn.

2021-02-18 03:58:53 UTC  

Bruh fine

2021-02-18 03:59:18 UTC  

You need to dissect *why* he wants monarchy, right? And the reason why people have historically wanted monarchy is because they want meritocracy and they believe that the current system isn't doing a particularly good job of it.

2021-02-18 03:59:53 UTC  

Yes that's true that they believe that

2021-02-18 04:00:53 UTC  

I think I see where you're going, but continue

2021-02-18 04:01:15 UTC  

Right, and when talking with people, when earnestly discussing ideas, you must at least take in good faith that they believe what they say they believe in before continuing.

2021-02-18 04:01:55 UTC  

And this goes deeper than governmental systems, this gets into ethics.

2021-02-18 04:02:49 UTC  

And I forgot where I was going.

2021-02-18 04:02:52 UTC  

Yeah I agree with that

2021-02-18 04:02:55 UTC  

Goddammit.

2021-02-18 04:03:04 UTC  

@KALLA WARR your gonna get a warn for talking in the chat btw lol