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2021-01-28 18:03:32 UTC  

Weimar Republic

2021-01-28 18:04:10 UTC  

Yes it happen on 17/09/1939 My grandfather twas taken as a prisoner of war by soviets

2021-01-28 20:26:14 UTC  

i am sorry to hear that

2021-01-28 20:34:58 UTC  

he run away than German caught him and he spent 4 years in Dachau, but he survive

2021-01-29 00:22:28 UTC  

Fascism is the result after the inevitable faillure of Communism. See modern China for details.

2021-01-29 00:23:00 UTC  

Fascism is evil, and it's awful in virtually every way. But at least it's workable.

2021-01-29 00:23:45 UTC  

That's not a defense of Fascism, merely an indictment of Communism.

2021-01-29 00:40:36 UTC  

well, not necessarily. Hitler and Mussolini were Fascists and they were an authoritarian force to fight the authoritarian Communists

2021-01-29 00:42:20 UTC  

That's a non sequiter.

2021-01-29 00:42:41 UTC  

How does that mean that Fascism does not follow in the wake of Communism?

2021-01-29 00:43:10 UTC  

its more of the other way around

2021-01-29 00:43:34 UTC  

for example, Pol Pot's regime came after the Facsist Dictatorship of Prince Sianouk

2021-01-29 00:43:37 UTC  

I never said that Communism can't follow fascism.

2021-01-29 00:43:54 UTC  

I said that Fascism comes after communism.

2021-01-29 00:44:20 UTC  

You're putting words in my mouth.

2021-01-29 00:44:49 UTC  

you said "Fascism is the result of failed communism"

2021-01-29 00:45:02 UTC  

So I said that isn't the only way

2021-01-29 00:45:22 UTC  

Neither did I. I said that it inevitably follows communism.

2021-01-29 00:45:36 UTC  

Not that it cannot arise in other circumstances.

2021-01-29 00:45:48 UTC  

Do you understand?

2021-01-29 00:45:50 UTC  

right but that's how I read it

2021-01-29 00:46:07 UTC  

Oh I understand, I was simply making sure you understood.

2021-01-29 00:47:38 UTC  

Huh

2021-01-29 00:47:53 UTC  

Communism sets up an unworkable economic structure and a very clear political structure. And because people need some sort of economic structure to fulfill their material needs, Communism will fail. But the Authoritarian political structure will still exist even if the country opens itself to markets. Therefor, it will become Fascist.

2021-01-29 00:48:18 UTC  

Which is then followed by capitalism

2021-01-29 00:48:55 UTC  

Then by monarchy

2021-01-29 00:49:08 UTC  

And the cycle repeats back to capitalism again

2021-01-29 00:49:16 UTC  

History repeats

2021-01-29 00:49:57 UTC  

Are Fascism and Monarchy all that different, if the Monarchy is not heriditary, though?

2021-01-29 00:50:06 UTC  

They are

2021-01-29 00:50:11 UTC  

that's what monarchism is

2021-01-29 00:50:50 UTC  

A monarchy does not control the means of production but they do control the currency

2021-01-29 00:51:03 UTC  

Because all that Fascism really means (according to its creator, Mussolini) is that there is nothing beyond the purview of the state.

2021-01-29 00:51:11 UTC  

Facism owns the means of production but does not cintrol tjem

2021-01-29 00:51:31 UTC  

Mussolini wasn't the inventor of facism

2021-01-29 00:51:43 UTC  

that seems bit hamfisted

2021-01-29 00:51:54 UTC  

Modern Fascism.

2021-01-29 00:51:54 UTC  

It was a spanish fellow

2021-01-29 00:51:58 UTC  

no, but he was the first to control a nation with it

2021-01-29 00:52:01 UTC  

Right before him

2021-01-29 00:52:11 UTC  

fascism is a way of state>individual