Message from @Bourbon in Gift Wrap

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2021-01-29 00:43:34 UTC  

for example, Pol Pot's regime came after the Facsist Dictatorship of Prince Sianouk

2021-01-29 00:43:37 UTC  

I never said that Communism can't follow fascism.

2021-01-29 00:43:54 UTC  

I said that Fascism comes after communism.

2021-01-29 00:44:20 UTC  

You're putting words in my mouth.

2021-01-29 00:44:49 UTC  

you said "Fascism is the result of failed communism"

2021-01-29 00:45:02 UTC  

So I said that isn't the only way

2021-01-29 00:45:22 UTC  

Neither did I. I said that it inevitably follows communism.

2021-01-29 00:45:36 UTC  

Not that it cannot arise in other circumstances.

2021-01-29 00:45:48 UTC  

Do you understand?

2021-01-29 00:45:50 UTC  

right but that's how I read it

2021-01-29 00:46:07 UTC  

Oh I understand, I was simply making sure you understood.

2021-01-29 00:47:38 UTC  

Huh

2021-01-29 00:47:53 UTC  

Communism sets up an unworkable economic structure and a very clear political structure. And because people need some sort of economic structure to fulfill their material needs, Communism will fail. But the Authoritarian political structure will still exist even if the country opens itself to markets. Therefor, it will become Fascist.

2021-01-29 00:48:18 UTC  

Which is then followed by capitalism

2021-01-29 00:48:55 UTC  

Then by monarchy

2021-01-29 00:49:08 UTC  

And the cycle repeats back to capitalism again

2021-01-29 00:49:16 UTC  

History repeats

2021-01-29 00:49:57 UTC  

Are Fascism and Monarchy all that different, if the Monarchy is not heriditary, though?

2021-01-29 00:50:06 UTC  

They are

2021-01-29 00:50:11 UTC  

that's what monarchism is

2021-01-29 00:50:50 UTC  

A monarchy does not control the means of production but they do control the currency

2021-01-29 00:51:03 UTC  

Because all that Fascism really means (according to its creator, Mussolini) is that there is nothing beyond the purview of the state.

2021-01-29 00:51:11 UTC  

Facism owns the means of production but does not cintrol tjem

2021-01-29 00:51:31 UTC  

Mussolini wasn't the inventor of facism

2021-01-29 00:51:43 UTC  

that seems bit hamfisted

2021-01-29 00:51:54 UTC  

Modern Fascism.

2021-01-29 00:51:54 UTC  

It was a spanish fellow

2021-01-29 00:51:58 UTC  

no, but he was the first to control a nation with it

2021-01-29 00:52:01 UTC  

Right before him

2021-01-29 00:52:11 UTC  

fascism is a way of state>individual

2021-01-29 00:52:24 UTC  

and yes communism is as well

2021-01-29 00:52:30 UTC  

And this is why definitions are important. Because if we're using the same word but with different definitions, then that's where most of the misunderstanding comes from.

2021-01-29 00:52:50 UTC  

what different definitions of fascism are there?

2021-01-29 00:53:04 UTC  

There are 72 variations

2021-01-29 00:53:06 UTC  

There are twenty definitions on Wikipedia, I believe.

2021-01-29 00:53:25 UTC  

72 definitions total

2021-01-29 00:53:26 UTC  

oh no it's like gender studies...

2021-01-29 00:53:34 UTC  

Mhm

2021-01-29 00:54:09 UTC  

Right. That's why I use the definition Mussolini came up with, and make sure to clarify that that is my definition.

2021-01-29 00:54:20 UTC  

I use the inventors definition

2021-01-29 00:54:28 UTC  

So ya know