Message from @DrewDaPilot
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And is natural and designed in god's imagine
Given that assumption*
This is wrong because we corrupted ALL of creation. Nothing is as it was when God created things
From the Baltimore Catechism: 145. What is "Free Will"? A. "Free Will" is that gift of God by which we are enabled to choose between one thing and another; and to do good or evil in spite of reward or punishment.
Even if you took this view, most animals only have “homosexual” “sex” to assert dominance over other males
"we"
We doesn't include animals afaik
Are there studies or is that just speculation
I’ve seen it in a couple documentaries
I'll look around
But I'm more curious about the whole animals free will thing
I think we have to establish that there is a separation of humans and animals, spiritually.
Yes
Animals are simple spiritually
They do not pray to God
This piece writes about free will specifically with reference to humans and as such wouldn’t find a reason to explain animal free will @DrewDaPilot this means that it doesn’t preclude the free will of animals
Well maybe they do
Who knows maybe panda bears pray to god
They are not spiritual. They are material.
They don’t pray to God, but they do or will recognize Him
They are alive right?
I mean dolphins are crazy smart how do we know they don't prey to God
Yes but so are plants
They don’t have the capability to
Plants aren't smart
Compared to dolphins
We aren’t talking about if they are smart
Oh you meant
My bad
Tbh I hate to dip but it's 5am
I should at least get a bit of sleep
This is from the CC IN THE IMAGE OF GOD"
356 Of all visible creatures only man is "able to know and love his creator".219 He is "the only creature on earth that God has willed for its own sake",220 and he alone is called to share, by knowledge and love, in God's own life. It was for this end that he was created, and this is the fundamental reason for his dignity:
What made you establish man in so great a dignity? Certainly the incalculable love by which you have looked on your creature in yourself! You are taken with love for her; for by love indeed you created her, by love you have given her a being capable of tasting your eternal Good.221
357 Being in the image of God the human individual possesses the dignity of a person, who is not just something, but someone. He is capable of self-knowledge, of self-possession and of freely giving himself and entering into communion with other persons. And he is called by grace to a covenant with his Creator, to offer him a response of faith and love that no other creature can give in his stead.
Word don't have meaning they are just some random words 😂
Actually I did mean something
But I died
Yes they are but animals are on a different level, plants don’t take free will actions. God breathed life into us and he have them life too. THE defining factor between us and all other creation is that we are created in God’s image. Free will isn’t necessarily included as part of God’s image, He may have given it to all animals humans and angels. What sets us apart is something else
Because it's 5am
Or was 3am at that time
Or something idk
All of christianity doesn't make sense if you don't have a relationship with God. It's not a religion