Message from @dbel

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2021-01-24 09:44:13 UTC  

Their homosexuality isn't a sin

2021-01-24 09:44:21 UTC  

And is natural and designed in god's imagine

2021-01-24 09:44:34 UTC  

Given that assumption*

2021-01-24 09:44:59 UTC  

This is wrong because we corrupted ALL of creation. Nothing is as it was when God created things

2021-01-24 09:45:29 UTC  

From the Baltimore Catechism: 145. What is "Free Will"? A. "Free Will" is that gift of God by which we are enabled to choose between one thing and another; and to do good or evil in spite of reward or punishment.

2021-01-24 09:46:08 UTC  

Even if you took this view, most animals only have “homosexual” “sex” to assert dominance over other males

2021-01-24 09:46:15 UTC  

"we"

2021-01-24 09:46:20 UTC  

We doesn't include animals afaik

2021-01-24 09:46:34 UTC  

Are there studies or is that just speculation

2021-01-24 09:46:51 UTC  

I’ve seen it in a couple documentaries

2021-01-24 09:47:01 UTC  

I'll look around

2021-01-24 09:47:18 UTC  

But I'm more curious about the whole animals free will thing

2021-01-24 09:47:27 UTC  

I think we have to establish that there is a separation of humans and animals, spiritually.

2021-01-24 09:47:33 UTC  

Yes

2021-01-24 09:47:41 UTC  

Animals are simple spiritually

2021-01-24 09:47:46 UTC  

They do not pray to God

2021-01-24 09:47:55 UTC  

This piece writes about free will specifically with reference to humans and as such wouldn’t find a reason to explain animal free will @DrewDaPilot this means that it doesn’t preclude the free will of animals

2021-01-24 09:47:57 UTC  

Well maybe they do

2021-01-24 09:48:04 UTC  

Who knows maybe panda bears pray to god

2021-01-24 09:48:21 UTC  

They are not spiritual. They are material.

2021-01-24 09:48:29 UTC  

They don’t pray to God, but they do or will recognize Him

2021-01-24 09:48:38 UTC  

Does the bible say that we are the only beings capable of spirituality?

2021-01-24 09:49:07 UTC  

They are alive right?

2021-01-24 09:49:08 UTC  

I mean dolphins are crazy smart how do we know they don't prey to God

2021-01-24 09:49:22 UTC  

Yes but so are plants

2021-01-24 09:49:25 UTC  

They don’t have the capability to

2021-01-24 09:49:30 UTC  

Plants aren't smart

2021-01-24 09:49:34 UTC  

Compared to dolphins

2021-01-24 09:49:46 UTC  

We aren’t talking about if they are smart

2021-01-24 09:49:51 UTC  

Oh you meant

2021-01-24 09:49:53 UTC  

My bad

2021-01-24 09:50:19 UTC  

Tbh I hate to dip but it's 5am

2021-01-24 09:50:25 UTC  

I should at least get a bit of sleep

2021-01-24 09:51:07 UTC  

This is from the CC IN THE IMAGE OF GOD"

356 Of all visible creatures only man is "able to know and love his creator".219 He is "the only creature on earth that God has willed for its own sake",220 and he alone is called to share, by knowledge and love, in God's own life. It was for this end that he was created, and this is the fundamental reason for his dignity:

What made you establish man in so great a dignity? Certainly the incalculable love by which you have looked on your creature in yourself! You are taken with love for her; for by love indeed you created her, by love you have given her a being capable of tasting your eternal Good.221
357 Being in the image of God the human individual possesses the dignity of a person, who is not just something, but someone. He is capable of self-knowledge, of self-possession and of freely giving himself and entering into communion with other persons. And he is called by grace to a covenant with his Creator, to offer him a response of faith and love that no other creature can give in his stead.

2021-01-24 09:51:24 UTC  

Word don't have meaning they are just some random words 😂

2021-01-24 09:51:41 UTC  

Actually I did mean something

2021-01-24 09:51:44 UTC  

But I died

2021-01-24 09:51:45 UTC  

Yes they are but animals are on a different level, plants don’t take free will actions. God breathed life into us and he have them life too. THE defining factor between us and all other creation is that we are created in God’s image. Free will isn’t necessarily included as part of God’s image, He may have given it to all animals humans and angels. What sets us apart is something else

2021-01-24 09:51:48 UTC  

Because it's 5am

2021-01-24 09:51:54 UTC  

Or was 3am at that time

2021-01-24 09:51:56 UTC  

Or something idk