Notice I dont keep bringing them up, but like a girlfriend you broke up with, they wont stop badmouthing you to everyone and anyone, even if it has nothing to do with them.

@Mercy maybe try a less hostile approach.

Lupercalia was a three day holiday from the 13-15th. Valentine's is a one day "holiday" on the 14th, an almost entirely secular day for exchanging printed cards called “valentines.” The valentine referred to in “Valentine’s Day” would refer to the cards and not to the saint guy with the same name.

Hostility would be different. What I do is take the un PC/polite route. The world needs less whipped people in it. Ive talked about this before, but the reasons christians are not respected and lost all ground they held is because they were soft fence sitting "We better not do anything that could offend people" that were weak.

Just because I riff on people does not mean I am being hostile.

I'm fine with opinions and facts. Check out everything Mercy has been up to across the channels. You can't have an opinion on this discord server without Mercy showing up and insulting you for it.

That's why I have him blocked and not you.

I mean, hell, I disagree with Bourbon in Giftwrap about 99% of everything, but at least we can agree to disagree. Mercy will just keep ranting until you mute him.

@Mercy oh c'mon mercy, no need to keep the dial turned to 11, take it down a couple of notches perhaps a cool 8. I imagine ud be pretty boring if u turned the dial all the way down to 3. Lol.
Ur among friends 🍻 🍻

Hmm

As far as this festival goes, yes, how do you think they should have done it? Gone to war with them and simply declare the fistival illegal?

Lately I havent really said much one way or the other lately and have dialed it down. But speaking the truth offends people. Its been pretty boring really.

A lot of people translate sarcastic and cynical as insulting and aggressive.

Baby steps mercy....baaaaybeee steps 😉

A baby down steps you says?

https://tenor.com/view/the-mandalorian-the-child-baby-yoda-cute-take-a-step-gif-16214747

Is he bringing up anything about the festival? Any good points?

Who

Nevermind.

I was talking about a subject people were on earlier, the common festival that turned into what we know of as Valentines Day.

I live in these guys heads so rent free. I dont even have to talk to them and they are still talking about me.

But if you guys aint gonna discuss religion, I suggest moving to another chat.

Last I checked, you aint the boss, and people can just have idle chat with each other without everything having to be religious 100% of the time Karen.

Anyway, Im out, Later qwert.

It could also be coincidental, lupercalia was a three day "festival". Valentine's could've landed on any of those days. 🤷‍♀️
It's like we christians, do our own thang...and u romans y'all enjoy ur festivities.

Well, the catholics were on to something, and it's effective. It's why SJW woke culture has gotten so far and nobody has stopped it. The social justice types are using the exact same techniques that the Catholics used centuries earlier. You take somebody else's culture and you slowly subvert it.

I mean, sure, the Festival may have *started* as a Roman tradition. But to say that it's Roman now is as silly as saying that BLM is still about racial equality. Regardless of how it started, it bears little resemblance to that now.

Here's a fun tid bit, there actually was three guys named valentine all lived under emperor claudius the 2nd. We know the first two, the third was another that died a christian martyr in africa. It's like the name paul, try yelling paul at an italian luncheon... probably half the room would respond. 😆

Good point.

Which one is the one we know of as *the* Saint Valentine? I am traditional (WELS) Lutheran (but sister is a strong traditional Catholic).

This I've heard this about sol invictus and Christmas, hint: we we're celebrating Jesus' birthday way before records of sol invictus in 230s ad showed up. Technically we got squatters rights. Besides sol invictus wasn't an anual holiday for the romans. But Christmas was. 😉

If u go deeper, the eastern christians (the orthodox folks), celebrate Christmas in early January.

But were we celebrating it as a midwinter festival, though? Because Jesus'....And you beat me to it, nevermind. Answered the question before I could ask.

Eeyyy ...u know what they say about great minds. Lol 😉

Spoiler:... they think alike. 🤫

Thanks 🙂 Right. The point I was mostly leveling at Watermelon was the notion that if you want to change a culture, it really does no good to come at them with sword in hand.

Like: "You just copied the Pagans".
Yeah? What would you have done? Genocided them?

You guys do know the catholics are wrong for mixing cultures

They didn't mix them, they subverted. There's a difference.

They literally took a Holiday that worship the devil and then subverted it into their own culture

Oh, yeah that too. And we christians (back then the roman caths) actually trolled the mithras festival by choosing the 25th of december because they didn't exactly have a legal birth certificate of our Jesus, so they had to go based on scriptures and work their way to an approximate date. They calculated it to be during the winter solstice (25 dec to 6th jan), so the western christians had dibbs on the 25th and the eastern christians on the 6th. Just to make sure somebody wished Jesus a happy birthday.

So you're saying that simply based on it's origins, the object of worship must still be the Devil?