Baby steps mercy....baaaaybeee steps 😉

A baby down steps you says?

https://tenor.com/view/the-mandalorian-the-child-baby-yoda-cute-take-a-step-gif-16214747

Is he bringing up anything about the festival? Any good points?

Who

Nevermind.

I was talking about a subject people were on earlier, the common festival that turned into what we know of as Valentines Day.

I live in these guys heads so rent free. I dont even have to talk to them and they are still talking about me.

But if you guys aint gonna discuss religion, I suggest moving to another chat.

Last I checked, you aint the boss, and people can just have idle chat with each other without everything having to be religious 100% of the time Karen.

Anyway, Im out, Later qwert.

It could also be coincidental, lupercalia was a three day "festival". Valentine's could've landed on any of those days. 🤷‍♀️
It's like we christians, do our own thang...and u romans y'all enjoy ur festivities.

Well, the catholics were on to something, and it's effective. It's why SJW woke culture has gotten so far and nobody has stopped it. The social justice types are using the exact same techniques that the Catholics used centuries earlier. You take somebody else's culture and you slowly subvert it.

I mean, sure, the Festival may have *started* as a Roman tradition. But to say that it's Roman now is as silly as saying that BLM is still about racial equality. Regardless of how it started, it bears little resemblance to that now.

Here's a fun tid bit, there actually was three guys named valentine all lived under emperor claudius the 2nd. We know the first two, the third was another that died a christian martyr in africa. It's like the name paul, try yelling paul at an italian luncheon... probably half the room would respond. 😆

Good point.

Which one is the one we know of as *the* Saint Valentine? I am traditional (WELS) Lutheran (but sister is a strong traditional Catholic).

This I've heard this about sol invictus and Christmas, hint: we we're celebrating Jesus' birthday way before records of sol invictus in 230s ad showed up. Technically we got squatters rights. Besides sol invictus wasn't an anual holiday for the romans. But Christmas was. 😉

If u go deeper, the eastern christians (the orthodox folks), celebrate Christmas in early January.

But were we celebrating it as a midwinter festival, though? Because Jesus'....And you beat me to it, nevermind. Answered the question before I could ask.

Eeyyy ...u know what they say about great minds. Lol 😉

Spoiler:... they think alike. 🤫

Thanks 🙂 Right. The point I was mostly leveling at Watermelon was the notion that if you want to change a culture, it really does no good to come at them with sword in hand.

Like: "You just copied the Pagans".
Yeah? What would you have done? Genocided them?

You guys do know the catholics are wrong for mixing cultures

They didn't mix them, they subverted. There's a difference.

They literally took a Holiday that worship the devil and then subverted it into their own culture

Oh, yeah that too. And we christians (back then the roman caths) actually trolled the mithras festival by choosing the 25th of december because they didn't exactly have a legal birth certificate of our Jesus, so they had to go based on scriptures and work their way to an approximate date. They calculated it to be during the winter solstice (25 dec to 6th jan), so the western christians had dibbs on the 25th and the eastern christians on the 6th. Just to make sure somebody wished Jesus a happy birthday.

So you're saying that simply based on it's origins, the object of worship must still be the Devil?

And if so, how does that logic work?

Halloween has many demonic symbolss

And funny enough catholics was the ones that came up as dressing up to scare the Ghost,ect off.

Look, I'm still going to celebrate halloween as a festival for the passing of Saints. I am still going to celebrate Christmas as the birthday of Christ. It is not wrong to turn a symbol from worship of evil and turn it to the worship of good, because a symbol and a date cannot be, in and of themselves, evil.

A pine tree is not evil.

Why worship the dead when they have no power?

A skull is not evil.

It is not worship.

Really...did u not see them vote? 👀

Yes it is. Don't you remember Jesus said let the dead bury the dead.

Same chirstmas isn't a problem

Skulls are pieces of calcium left over after we die. They do not have any sort of moral alignment.

We associate them with death for obvious reasons. We also do not like touching the dead for obvious purposes of hygiene.

That does not make them evil.