Every creation has a creator, except for God. The universe cannot pop out of thin air. John 1:3 is helpful.

Essentially without a God, there is nothing

Or science is completely wrong

John 1:1 God was there from the beginning, everything else to exist came from his doing.

@GotatoChi Still confused?

what

there wouldn't be a scientific method if it weren't for the order to the universe

i believe in him

You were confused on how to prove it, we listed many examples, so do you get it

I’ll take that as a yes, you are confused

but is those things proof

😠

Ok so now we have established there is a God, now proof of God is everywhere. I will give examples

prove to me atoms are real right now lmao

is how it sounds @GotatoChi

Even for the sake of argument, let's say evolution is true... How does a naturalist explain that? There would have to be some sort of order to things to produce life, and even then, how would it become conscious? Moreover, if evolution happened, then only the traits that are beneficial would be preserved, which doesn't mean believing things that are true, just what is helpful for preserving the species. So then why believe naturalism is true? All it would mean to believe that is that it is evolutionarily beneficial to do so, not that that is acutally true

Very much so, the Bible is usually the biggest thing to prove God's existence, but just using logic can also work

In other words, if naturalism is true, naturalism probably isn't true

😳 everyone ganging up on me

Not ganging, just trying to help

no we love you

NO please don’t think that

we are not against you

We like to shower people with knowledge

Yes we just want to share with you truth

idk i just don't believe those things are absolute proof

we prob could be doing this in a more orderly fashion

Yes we could

We can work on that

Starting now

What would be considered absolute proof?

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i don't think there is proof we can get while still alive

So your saying the proof comes after death?

maybe idk

maybe not

but why does it matter if we have proof

well it's a more philosophical thing than scientific

Let’s try from a different way then. From someone who did die.
The evidence for Jesus

To make sure people understand what they believe

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