Message from @terry

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2020-12-09 03:52:13 UTC  

S O C I A L I S M

2020-12-09 03:52:48 UTC  

Well to be fair saying isn't the same as doing

2020-12-09 03:53:34 UTC  

I mean when you demand something...you most likely want that thing

2020-12-09 03:53:34 UTC  

Well

2020-12-09 03:54:32 UTC  

Could capitalism and totatlitarianism even work?

2020-12-09 03:54:52 UTC  

Maybe
Chile?

2020-12-09 03:54:58 UTC  

Probably not

2020-12-09 03:55:42 UTC  

well totalitarianism is more orwellian where the government controls every aspect of your life (similar to nazi germany)

2020-12-09 03:55:50 UTC  

so I don't see how it could be capitalist

2020-12-09 03:56:38 UTC  

Do nazi's outwardly support total control over everyday life?

2020-12-09 03:57:26 UTC  

I thought if you were deemed of good ethnic sound you'd get the socialist treatment but I see no mention of a surveillance state

2020-12-09 03:57:45 UTC  

I got the definition of totalitarianism wrong sorry

2020-12-09 03:57:45 UTC  

They'd implement it

2020-12-09 03:58:06 UTC  

its inevitable for any powerful state really

2020-12-09 03:58:25 UTC  

look at one nation toryism in UK, bloody cctv everywhere in London

2020-12-09 04:00:00 UTC  

> the Nazis found it necessary to set up charitable institutions to help racially-pure Germans in order to maintain popular support

2020-12-09 04:01:22 UTC  
2020-12-09 04:01:38 UTC  

Nazi Germany was pretty Socialist but not traditonal Marxist socialism

2020-12-09 04:01:43 UTC  

more social darwinism

2020-12-09 04:02:26 UTC  

How is it like social darwinism?

2020-12-09 04:03:03 UTC  

because it didn't help "inferior" races

2020-12-09 04:03:30 UTC  

its more like state imposed social darwinism

2020-12-09 04:04:08 UTC  

rather than naturally letting the races thwart each other

2020-12-09 04:09:22 UTC  

Social darwinsim isn't socialism

2020-12-09 04:10:24 UTC  

I know

2020-12-09 04:11:51 UTC  

Its quite the opposite

2020-12-09 04:12:28 UTC  

I know, but Hitler imposed social darwinist policies in a way

2020-12-09 04:12:49 UTC  

Social Darwinism is just a worldview

2020-12-09 04:13:11 UTC  

But it could easily be incorporated with libertarianism as with Nazism

2020-12-09 04:16:34 UTC  

if social darwinism is survival of the fittest, then I'd say capitalism is similar to social darwinism if that's what @hqjsdbsnwa is talking about

2020-12-09 04:17:00 UTC  

though capitalism doesn't just serve to the "strong"

2020-12-09 04:17:42 UTC  

Well,capitalism doesn't serve anyone,but the more competent people have it better under capitalism

2020-12-09 04:18:07 UTC  

it just give people total freedom to life, liberty and property

2020-12-09 04:18:26 UTC  

everything is done with mutual contracts and agreements that do not infringe the NAP

2020-12-09 04:18:55 UTC  

yeah perhaps "serve" was the wrong word, but capitalism isn't just there to the "strong" rather but to everybody

2020-12-09 04:19:23 UTC  

Yeah

2020-12-09 04:19:47 UTC  

The more competent people have it better under capitalism but theh don't have to be strong or whatever

2020-12-09 04:20:13 UTC  

Social Darwinism is just survival of the fittest but that isnt quite precisely quantifiable in human social life, success is subjective

2020-12-09 04:21:20 UTC  

Like you can be the weakest ugliest looking dude in the world but if ur smart you can have a better life and more money than some strong attactice guy under capitalism