Message from @Ivan Serov
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Exploitation of countries/nations for the benefit of capital
Boo hoo that's so retarded
that’s so bad
Like nigga this isn't 19th century colonialism
Lol what was the east india company
And capital isn't some autonomous force, it's tied to the state
Capital can totally exist outside the state
It was clearly still part of British state
Capital is the power of the collective
the state
is the collective
Same thing
The company went against the common interests of the british state all the time
And who won in the end?
It was basically a massive banking conglomerate
Why does it matter who won
Capital can't usually afford to go independently from the state
It will eventually be absorbed by buerocratic apparatus
Even today we can't speak of fully international capital elite
As American megacorporations are still in heavy ties with US government
Wtf do you think international banking is
This is such a 2016 take
Nigga capital can act autonomous between different states only when one state is powerful enough to establish hegemony over others
If it wasn't for US hegemony over the western world you would see far less "international capital"
There is literally thousands of examples of instances of capital going against the state its working for
You can tell me all about it in VC
I dont even see what we are arguing about
Like wtf is your contention
My point is that imperialism is good for the state and your definition is extremely specific and autistic
British imperialism was extremely good for your state as well
Without it England would be backwards hellhole of Europe
We wouldent have a shit ton of pakis and nogs if not for British Imperalism
See that's what we gonna debate
I say it's not fault of Imperialism but you guys liberalizing
Imperalism is inherently liberal as it imports cultures and peoples dude
no it doesn't
See this is dumb beyond belief
How old are you
okok