Message from @Ivan Serov

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2021-01-03 21:16:35 UTC  

If thats your definition

2021-01-03 21:16:35 UTC  

Wtf

2021-01-03 21:16:41 UTC  

Ok what's your definition

2021-01-03 21:16:42 UTC  

Nice <:emoji_22:793822836404781066>

2021-01-03 21:17:00 UTC  

Holy shit took me less then a minute to win

2021-01-03 21:17:14 UTC  

Exploitation of countries/nations for the benefit of capital

2021-01-03 21:17:24 UTC  

Boo hoo that's so retarded

2021-01-03 21:17:29 UTC  

that’s so bad

2021-01-03 21:17:36 UTC  

Like nigga this isn't 19th century colonialism

2021-01-03 21:17:49 UTC  

Lol what was the east india company

2021-01-03 21:17:50 UTC  

And capital isn't some autonomous force, it's tied to the state

2021-01-03 21:18:05 UTC  

Capital can totally exist outside the state

2021-01-03 21:18:06 UTC  

It was clearly still part of British state

2021-01-03 21:18:11 UTC  

Capital is the power of the collective

2021-01-03 21:18:16 UTC  

the state

2021-01-03 21:18:20 UTC  

is the collective

2021-01-03 21:18:21 UTC  

Same thing

2021-01-03 21:18:25 UTC  

The company went against the common interests of the british state all the time

2021-01-03 21:18:40 UTC  

And who won in the end?

2021-01-03 21:18:42 UTC  

It was basically a massive banking conglomerate

2021-01-03 21:18:58 UTC  

Why does it matter who won

2021-01-03 21:18:59 UTC  

Capital can't usually afford to go independently from the state

2021-01-03 21:19:18 UTC  

It will eventually be absorbed by buerocratic apparatus

2021-01-03 21:19:32 UTC  

Even today we can't speak of fully international capital elite

2021-01-03 21:19:56 UTC  

As American megacorporations are still in heavy ties with US government

2021-01-03 21:19:57 UTC  

Bro capital is inherently international

2021-01-03 21:20:04 UTC  

Wtf do you think international banking is

2021-01-03 21:20:12 UTC  

This is such a 2016 take

2021-01-03 21:20:46 UTC  

Nigga capital can act autonomous between different states only when one state is powerful enough to establish hegemony over others

2021-01-03 21:21:16 UTC  

If it wasn't for US hegemony over the western world you would see far less "international capital"

2021-01-03 21:21:24 UTC  

There is literally thousands of examples of instances of capital going against the state its working for

2021-01-03 21:21:38 UTC  

You can tell me all about it in VC

2021-01-03 21:21:49 UTC  

I dont even see what we are arguing about

2021-01-03 21:22:08 UTC  

Like wtf is your contention

2021-01-03 21:22:18 UTC  

My point is that imperialism is good for the state and your definition is extremely specific and autistic

2021-01-03 21:22:32 UTC  

British imperialism was extremely good for your state as well

2021-01-03 21:23:01 UTC  

Without it England would be backwards hellhole of Europe

2021-01-03 21:23:02 UTC  

We wouldent have a shit ton of pakis and nogs if not for British Imperalism

2021-01-03 21:23:13 UTC  

See that's what we gonna debate

2021-01-03 21:23:31 UTC  

I say it's not fault of Imperialism but you guys liberalizing

2021-01-03 21:24:03 UTC  

Imperalism is inherently liberal as it imports cultures and peoples dude