Message from @Elijah
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geopolitics obviously affects what's politically possible as well
I don't want universal healthcare and maternity leave in this context
it's open field in the next couple decades to make America as social democratics as most european countries
A capitalism providing those things is worse than the type we have now to me
so you want conditions to worsen even more so a communist revolution can happen
Not really
I just don't want capitalist social democracy.
The American working class is tied already to the idea that we are somehow beholden to American Empire. Using the wealth that system generates to give them social programs would ultimately entrench American people in a perpetual continuation of neocolonial extraction
I don't want things to be slightly better here at the continued expense of the third world
And social democracy creates incentives I don't like
Does that make sense to you?
it makes sense to me but you are hoping for something that isn't realistic
You have to have revolutionary enthusiasm
Or you just kill yourself
I prefer hoping and trying
All we need is enthusiasm guys!!!
That's not what I said retard.
the third world will keep getting exploited your whole life even if American decline is terminal
I prefer maintaining the position that it's possible and maintaining hope that it will happen because the alternative is nihilism and inaction
Leftists honestly think they’re gonna lead a revolution when they’re all obese with no combat training.
And ultimately it's better to die while doing something about your shit conditions even if you can't change them than to die doing nothing.
Probably.
This is why I am 20 pounds underweight, I am in training for communism
you are dreaming about a utopia and then getting sad that it isn't possible
I've been organizing for years and don't see a clear path out of black people being dragged down with the geriatric American state.
the problem isn't in the people not dreaming in that utopia
it's you for thinking it's possible
It's possible we just need popular will to it
We've seen it happen before, you act like national liberation has never happened
I know about Irish and Algerians cracker
you aren't talking about national liberation
I am
you are talking about the third world not getting exploited
That's my primary concern politically
I said that at the outset of this discussion
Do I need to quote myself smh
Right this second I'm talking about why social democracy isn't worth it to me. It doesn't service my primary goal of national liberation, it is in fact potentially contradictory, and it is harmful to the third world who I think we ought to be in solidarity with
So you can see why I don't think voting is a good use of time right?
And you'd agree because I'm correct.
What do u think of the Zapatistas