Message from @Elijah

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2021-02-21 23:51:26 UTC  

geopolitics obviously affects what's politically possible as well

2021-02-21 23:51:52 UTC  

I don't want universal healthcare and maternity leave in this context

2021-02-21 23:52:09 UTC  

it's open field in the next couple decades to make America as social democratics as most european countries

2021-02-21 23:52:14 UTC  

A capitalism providing those things is worse than the type we have now to me

2021-02-21 23:52:47 UTC  

so you want conditions to worsen even more so a communist revolution can happen

2021-02-21 23:52:59 UTC  

Not really

2021-02-21 23:53:06 UTC  

I just don't want capitalist social democracy.

2021-02-21 23:54:16 UTC  

The American working class is tied already to the idea that we are somehow beholden to American Empire. Using the wealth that system generates to give them social programs would ultimately entrench American people in a perpetual continuation of neocolonial extraction

2021-02-21 23:54:36 UTC  

I don't want things to be slightly better here at the continued expense of the third world

2021-02-21 23:55:03 UTC  

And social democracy creates incentives I don't like

2021-02-21 23:55:08 UTC  

Does that make sense to you?

2021-02-21 23:55:25 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793519133177675800/813197218882256896/video0.mp4

2021-02-21 23:56:13 UTC  

it makes sense to me but you are hoping for something that isn't realistic

2021-02-21 23:56:26 UTC  

You have to have revolutionary enthusiasm

2021-02-21 23:56:30 UTC  

Or you just kill yourself

2021-02-21 23:56:45 UTC  

I prefer hoping and trying

2021-02-21 23:56:46 UTC  

All we need is enthusiasm guys!!!

2021-02-21 23:56:55 UTC  

That's not what I said retard.

2021-02-21 23:57:25 UTC  

the third world will keep getting exploited your whole life even if American decline is terminal

2021-02-21 23:57:41 UTC  

I prefer maintaining the position that it's possible and maintaining hope that it will happen because the alternative is nihilism and inaction

2021-02-21 23:57:56 UTC  

Leftists honestly think they’re gonna lead a revolution when they’re all obese with no combat training.

2021-02-21 23:58:01 UTC  

And ultimately it's better to die while doing something about your shit conditions even if you can't change them than to die doing nothing.

2021-02-21 23:58:08 UTC  

Probably.

2021-02-21 23:58:18 UTC  

This is why I am 20 pounds underweight, I am in training for communism

2021-02-21 23:58:51 UTC  

you are dreaming about a utopia and then getting sad that it isn't possible

2021-02-21 23:58:54 UTC  

I've been organizing for years and don't see a clear path out of black people being dragged down with the geriatric American state.

2021-02-21 23:59:02 UTC  

the problem isn't in the people not dreaming in that utopia

2021-02-21 23:59:09 UTC  

it's you for thinking it's possible

2021-02-21 23:59:17 UTC  

It's possible we just need popular will to it

2021-02-21 23:59:29 UTC  

We've seen it happen before, you act like national liberation has never happened

2021-02-21 23:59:36 UTC  

I know about Irish and Algerians cracker

2021-02-21 23:59:45 UTC  

you aren't talking about national liberation

2021-02-21 23:59:49 UTC  

I am

2021-02-21 23:59:56 UTC  

you are talking about the third world not getting exploited

2021-02-21 23:59:56 UTC  

That's my primary concern politically

2021-02-22 00:00:07 UTC  

I said that at the outset of this discussion

2021-02-22 00:00:11 UTC  

Do I need to quote myself smh

2021-02-22 00:01:24 UTC  

Right this second I'm talking about why social democracy isn't worth it to me. It doesn't service my primary goal of national liberation, it is in fact potentially contradictory, and it is harmful to the third world who I think we ought to be in solidarity with

2021-02-22 00:01:34 UTC  

So you can see why I don't think voting is a good use of time right?

2021-02-22 00:01:45 UTC  

And you'd agree because I'm correct.

2021-02-22 00:03:47 UTC  

What do u think of the Zapatistas