Message from @Victorian
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That samuel guy is really smart and intelligent.
Freedom entails liberalism which we support and it also entails privatizion which we also support
Who r u?
alright we support it for idealistic reasons, what's the material benefit of that part in particular?
I've been here for like 3 years
like what is the specific gain of making the country we occupy a "democracy" instead of an open satellite
I mean look at how much we've benefited economically from establishing liberalism in Germany and Japan
A free country participates in global trade
that's because we put them into our economic and military sphere, not really because of liberalism
Not necessarily
we could have done the same without being liberals
Didn't work for the Soviets
why does a liberal have a siege mask pfp
A liberal economy is better than an illiberal economy
it didn't really work for the Soviets because they didn't have economic surplus to ride because their country was totally destroyed during the war
we bought our way into the West using the Marshall Plan
We create stable democracy with popular support we don't deal with dissendence and we get massive economic benifit
It's hard to argue liberalism benifits us separate from of sphere because our sphere more or less is liberalism
yeah because we bankrolled their entire reconstruction
of course you can't separate the American foreign policy from liberalism because that's one of our big tools
We gave them loans they payed back and it made us the largest economy on earth
doesn't mean the result would've been any different if we had some other set of ideas to rotate about
duh
Would matter immensely
are loans exclusive to liberalism?
Compare our success to Germany or Russias failure
why are you two arguing over alt hist hypotheticals
We aren't that much powerful we supported self determination
Germany failed because they didn't have the resources or logistics to support the war effort and their manufacturing was too convoluted
Nothing to do with their set of ideas
Their economy was a joke
A national socialist America would have destroyed a German republic
A national socialist America would collapse under domestic instability
How
Large minority populations?
lol Victorian is right on this one
Lack of clear racial identity