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I think in America in particular considerations like geopolitics and foreign powers aren't considered because as a nation we never have to deal with those issues

People are more inclined to idealism because they never feel any foreign threat

Agreed

Europe is getting that way as well Russia is a bit of a joke

Liberalism in foreign policy backfires when American people realize we are not actually spreading liberalism very much

Our "wars of liberation from le evil dictators" pretty much go nowhere and populace says "why are we still in Iraq?"

Because gucci contract money and strategic control

"But we went there to spread democracy and stop WMDs"

"Democracy?"

We did go into Iraq to spread democracy it just didn't work

this anime guy saying fax

Like we got very little benifit from it

And Iraq is a democracy

No we got the gucci contract money and perhaps a degree of strategic control as fleeting as it is

Nobody gives a shit

Their democracy wants to kick us out

So we just ignored them

I do not give a rat's ass if there is democracy in Iraq

Their democracy wants a lot of things

Saddam Hussein was based anyway

I do

Don't fucking care one bit

Saddam was gay

Inavdes Persia and loses

Most Americans cannot even find Iraq on a map but I can and I still do not care

So cool

why do you have skull mask pfp

American foreign policy (at least post Wilson) has been fairly moral

Nigga nobody cares about morality

Why wouldn't it

We turned Vietnamese children into roast beef to prevent a red flag from flying in Hanoi because French asked us to

Yeah lol

We supported Pol Pot to pwn the libs in Vietnam afterwards also

Nixon invented Nixbol pill and that's why the Cambodian life expectancy in 1979 is 18 years

the actions aren’t rooted in morality they could care less about that, it’s just perceived that way to get public consent

We whacked Gaddafi and now Libya has slavery again

Literally nobody cares about morality

Talking wilsomian idealism here

National self determination

You can't say we did x immoral thing in war because war is inherently immoral