Message from @Deleted User

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2018-03-15 02:54:35 UTC  

I think it's very relevant given that Rome was a republic for half of its history

2018-03-15 02:55:20 UTC  

and I think that all republics have to deal with authority, distribution of power, constitutionality, and the rise/decline of the institutions over time

2018-03-15 02:55:21 UTC  

Well for sure, the lessons that Rome taught were incredibly important

2018-03-15 02:55:48 UTC  

Yeah but the details are nowhere near as important

2018-03-15 02:56:12 UTC  

yeah the details are only there to inspire general theory

2018-03-15 02:56:32 UTC  

But you can say the English Civil War was directly influential to America's founding

2018-03-15 02:56:37 UTC  

but I don't think it makes it any less important if you're really trying to understand politics

2018-03-15 02:56:40 UTC  

oh absolutely

2018-03-15 02:56:49 UTC  

what do you think inspired Locke to write his two treatises of gov't?

2018-03-15 02:57:24 UTC  

people really underestimate how influential locke was to the American colonists, also how disproportionately influential he was

2018-03-15 02:57:58 UTC  

That's one thing they get right in school

2018-03-15 02:58:02 UTC  

there was all sorts of thinkers at the time, with all sorts of works of varying popularity circulating the colonies, but for such an age of enlightenment, people weren't really as well read as the period is often portrayed

2018-03-15 02:58:35 UTC  

I remember looking at some primary documents about harvard students in the 1700s

2018-03-15 02:58:50 UTC  

a dorm burned down and the school was filing claims to restore property to the students

2018-03-15 02:59:01 UTC  

so you could see what every student claimed as his property, including the books that they had

2018-03-15 02:59:06 UTC  

lots of bible

2018-03-15 02:59:10 UTC  

lots of random textbooks

2018-03-15 02:59:14 UTC  

some john locke

2018-03-15 02:59:23 UTC  

everything else in very small quantities

2018-03-15 02:59:27 UTC  

honestly, it's kind of like today

2018-03-15 02:59:31 UTC  

in a sense

2018-03-15 02:59:44 UTC  

though replace the bible with some random social media bullshit or maybe the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy lol

2018-03-15 03:00:07 UTC  

people like james madison, benjamin franklin, alexander hamilton, and james madison were one out of a thousand

2018-03-15 03:00:32 UTC  

You have any book recommendations on European history?

2018-03-15 03:00:46 UTC  

Or should I just get a textbook for something like that?

2018-03-15 03:00:55 UTC  

I have a good recommendation of a "textbook"

2018-03-15 03:01:09 UTC  

Patrick O'Brien's World History Atlas

2018-03-15 03:01:17 UTC  

Alright fellas, what should we set this week's topic for?

2018-03-15 03:01:28 UTC  

Whatever you want

2018-03-15 03:02:26 UTC  

Should we follow a podcast or book?

2018-03-15 03:03:41 UTC  

Alright, because we are Amfirst, we'll do the American Revolutionary War as our very first topic.

The war was between American Rebels, and the British Empire lasting from Apr 19, 1775 – Sep 3, 1783, get to chatting fellas!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423672101250269187/423677642802462722/Lexington_Green_19th_of_April_1775-Don_Troiani.jpg

2018-03-15 03:03:48 UTC  

2018-03-15 03:04:09 UTC  

Do you think it was more miraculous that America won its independence, or was it inevitable?

2018-03-15 03:04:11 UTC  

Horatio Gates - big gay, or giga faggot?

2018-03-15 03:05:19 UTC  

@Deleted User Don't know enough about the fellow.

2018-03-15 03:05:28 UTC  

Seems like a queer from what little I'm reading of him.

2018-03-15 03:05:44 UTC  

If you looked at the political climate of the time period with the age of enlightenment it wasn't too amazing

2018-03-15 03:06:19 UTC  

But the if it weren't for the Seven Years War it would not have happened

2018-03-15 03:06:19 UTC  

But I mean militarily, do you think it was any amount of difficult or unlikely?

2018-03-15 03:06:39 UTC  

I hold the personal belief that we were very, very fortunate.

2018-03-15 03:06:44 UTC  

Militarily I'd say it was pretty miraculous