Message from @Lorenzo

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2017-09-24 21:24:16 UTC  

What are your tactics when you're trying to redpill someone towards ethnonationalism?

2017-09-24 21:24:18 UTC  

Offline, I mean

2017-09-24 21:24:36 UTC  

How can you break people's perception of white nationalism? a lot of people see it as an evil thing

2017-09-24 21:24:48 UTC  

and it's difficult to break that in face to face conversations

2017-09-24 21:27:48 UTC  

you cant do it with a single conversation

2017-09-24 21:28:05 UTC  

it requires changing someones worldview on many different things

2017-09-24 21:29:00 UTC  

I just mean for close friends and relatives

2017-09-24 21:29:10 UTC  

It's not something done over night, I know this from my own experience

2017-09-24 21:29:12 UTC  

and most importantly that person needs to be capable of accepting opinions that the mainstream strongly disapproves of, and most people do not have the courage to do that

2017-09-24 21:35:10 UTC  

I'm trying to redpill my Norwegian friend irl, pretty sure i've at least managed to make him not want to marry outside his race, which is really all I could ask for.

2017-09-24 21:35:58 UTC  

What specifically do you want to redpill him on?

2017-09-24 21:37:03 UTC  

the end goal is ethno-nationalism

2017-09-24 21:37:11 UTC  

For me, personally, I mean.

2017-09-24 21:37:16 UTC  

hear hear

2017-09-24 21:37:19 UTC  

i don't speak for Arna

2017-09-24 21:37:45 UTC  

Ethno states used to be reserved to larping oon 4chan but the movement is growing not only in numbers but also maturity in thinking

2017-09-24 21:38:08 UTC  

We understand that we must think in concrete and realistic terms

2017-09-24 21:39:56 UTC  

I don't know what I wanna red-pill my friend on besides being against interracial stuff, i'm not exactly a natsoc my self so I don't know what I can redpill him on.

2017-09-24 21:41:08 UTC  

He must understand the overal picture of the world today, many people don't, they still perceive things through the mainstream lens ie. "we are taking in people to help them" is one view which is held by well intentioned individuals but which is ultimately completely false

2017-09-24 21:42:13 UTC  

what i like to do is tell someone that the west has killed 2 million people in Iraq based on nothing, Baghdad was carpet bombed at night and the world didn't blink an eye, does he really think that the same stock of politicians today cares any deal about the plight of these people now?

2017-09-24 21:42:29 UTC  

I've made one of my leftist friends admit that it is sad to see white people disapear in their own home nations, by making a parallel with palestine

2017-09-24 21:42:41 UTC  

the truth is that mass immigration is completely organised and allowed for very different reasons than what the masses are told

2017-09-24 21:43:54 UTC  

when cutting a tree, start at the base

2017-09-24 21:44:59 UTC  

I was talking to him about Swedistan from the start, and he's had some bad experiences with immigrants from his time spent in Norway, so I think that he was already against mass immigration before we met, but now that he's in Iceland, i've turned his sentiments into concrete opinion.

2017-09-24 21:47:39 UTC  

I've made it a point to show him how much better he probably feels being here in a white-majority town with no mosques and no muslims compared to Oslo by always pointing out how absurd his stories about immigrants sound.

2017-09-24 21:49:56 UTC  

He showed me a chat he once had with a Muslim immigrant girl where she was telling him how she wants to marry him and have babies with him, so it's pretty easy for me to show him why he should appreciate being among whites

2017-09-24 21:53:19 UTC  

damn

2017-09-24 22:02:54 UTC  

I realize that I might sound like highly trained member of the Israeli Special Subversive Task Force, but i'm not treating my friend like just another pawn or something

2017-09-24 22:03:38 UTC  

He genuinely is my friend, I'm just trying to red pill him on the sly

2017-09-24 22:03:48 UTC  

I had a conversation two days ago with a friend of mine, she teaches middle school and was working in Brussels for half a year. All her students were foreigners, Arabs, Blacks you name it. When the hebdo attack happened in France they were tasked to sensibilize the children to terrorism and teach them that it is wrong. Given that they themselves are white they thought it best to let the most well behaved student come infront of the class and say something about the event. When asked what she thought of it she responded "It is a good thing, Mohammed cannot be rediculed". The teachers were shocked

2017-09-24 22:04:56 UTC  

Working on redpilling all around me, to some degree 😎

2017-09-24 22:05:23 UTC  

Got my parents from the "Normal" rightwing party that started this immigration shit in sweden to the Sweden Democrats (basically the AfD or UKIP of Sweden)

2017-09-24 22:05:34 UTC  

And gotten several friends increasingly redpilled

2017-09-24 22:05:55 UTC  

This kind of stuff happens daily all across Belgium, recently too there were teachers who went public when some of their students put their fingers on their throats and made a "killing" gesture to other children. They seem to also like to exclaim "Allah akbar" on the playground, it was being talked about nation wide but im very skeptical that the same morons who let all of this happen have the wit to mitigate it

2017-09-24 22:06:56 UTC  

We had a police called Peter Stormare who went viral because he simply reported (to the public, without any names and so on) what crimes had been done during 1 month or a week, can't remember, and he simply said how many were swedish/foreign

2017-09-24 22:07:09 UTC  

The Right Wing in Sweden sounds like the least right wing thing ever. What kind of Conservative party is pro-immigration?

2017-09-24 22:07:10 UTC  

Media were furious about him and several other police were like "T-That's a lie....."

2017-09-24 22:07:34 UTC  

Well, if you think of politics as a scale between 100 and -100

2017-09-24 22:07:47 UTC  

we're somewhere around 50 and that's considered the "center" for us 😃

2017-09-24 22:07:57 UTC  

So anyone closer to 0 is "rightwing" etc

2017-09-24 22:08:54 UTC  

How the hell is it possible that we did this to ourselves... it staggers belief