Message from @Lorenzo

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2017-09-24 21:02:50 UTC  

Natsoc would actually be preferred, yeah.

2017-09-24 21:04:26 UTC  

We're trying to appeal to whites after all. I doubt anuddah shoah is ever gonna happen, at worst we'll just end up with what we have now but whites benefit from it.

2017-09-24 21:05:32 UTC  

Which won't be that bad from our points of view.

2017-09-24 21:05:48 UTC  

A white ethnostate shouldnt include jews, jews are another race obviously.

2017-09-24 21:14:34 UTC  

obviously we'll just include whites

2017-09-24 21:20:27 UTC  

What would you do for race mixed people

2017-09-24 21:20:34 UTC  

who are part white and identify as white

2017-09-24 21:20:53 UTC  

This is a question that causes a lot of fence sitters to shy away from ethno-nationalism

2017-09-24 21:20:56 UTC  

my basic rule for determining it is if they are atleast 75% european/white and show mostly european features

2017-09-24 21:21:02 UTC  

then they're allowed in

2017-09-24 21:21:10 UTC  

as we could breed out that mongrelization

2017-09-24 21:21:32 UTC  

I don't think there are enough race mixed people for it to matter

2017-09-24 21:21:42 UTC  

It's why I think it would just be down to choice

2017-09-24 21:22:00 UTC  

those who want to remain in the ethno-state could as long as they asymilate themselves into whites

2017-09-24 21:22:07 UTC  

those who don't can leave to their "parent" countries

2017-09-24 21:24:02 UTC  

another question :

2017-09-24 21:24:16 UTC  

What are your tactics when you're trying to redpill someone towards ethnonationalism?

2017-09-24 21:24:18 UTC  

Offline, I mean

2017-09-24 21:24:36 UTC  

How can you break people's perception of white nationalism? a lot of people see it as an evil thing

2017-09-24 21:24:48 UTC  

and it's difficult to break that in face to face conversations

2017-09-24 21:27:48 UTC  

you cant do it with a single conversation

2017-09-24 21:28:05 UTC  

it requires changing someones worldview on many different things

2017-09-24 21:29:00 UTC  

I just mean for close friends and relatives

2017-09-24 21:29:10 UTC  

It's not something done over night, I know this from my own experience

2017-09-24 21:29:12 UTC  

and most importantly that person needs to be capable of accepting opinions that the mainstream strongly disapproves of, and most people do not have the courage to do that

2017-09-24 21:35:10 UTC  

I'm trying to redpill my Norwegian friend irl, pretty sure i've at least managed to make him not want to marry outside his race, which is really all I could ask for.

2017-09-24 21:35:58 UTC  

What specifically do you want to redpill him on?

2017-09-24 21:37:03 UTC  

the end goal is ethno-nationalism

2017-09-24 21:37:11 UTC  

For me, personally, I mean.

2017-09-24 21:37:16 UTC  

hear hear

2017-09-24 21:37:19 UTC  

i don't speak for Arna

2017-09-24 21:37:45 UTC  

Ethno states used to be reserved to larping oon 4chan but the movement is growing not only in numbers but also maturity in thinking

2017-09-24 21:38:08 UTC  

We understand that we must think in concrete and realistic terms

2017-09-24 21:39:56 UTC  

I don't know what I wanna red-pill my friend on besides being against interracial stuff, i'm not exactly a natsoc my self so I don't know what I can redpill him on.

2017-09-24 21:41:08 UTC  

He must understand the overal picture of the world today, many people don't, they still perceive things through the mainstream lens ie. "we are taking in people to help them" is one view which is held by well intentioned individuals but which is ultimately completely false

2017-09-24 21:42:13 UTC  

what i like to do is tell someone that the west has killed 2 million people in Iraq based on nothing, Baghdad was carpet bombed at night and the world didn't blink an eye, does he really think that the same stock of politicians today cares any deal about the plight of these people now?

2017-09-24 21:42:29 UTC  

I've made one of my leftist friends admit that it is sad to see white people disapear in their own home nations, by making a parallel with palestine

2017-09-24 21:42:41 UTC  

the truth is that mass immigration is completely organised and allowed for very different reasons than what the masses are told

2017-09-24 21:43:54 UTC  

when cutting a tree, start at the base

2017-09-24 21:44:59 UTC  

I was talking to him about Swedistan from the start, and he's had some bad experiences with immigrants from his time spent in Norway, so I think that he was already against mass immigration before we met, but now that he's in Iceland, i've turned his sentiments into concrete opinion.